Nostalrius Online Players Scam? 2.0

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Re: Nostalrius Online Players Scam? 2.0

by Harmynt » Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:48 pm

I live in sweden, a country with about 9.5 million inhabitants. Or so the government claims!
I have 11 friends spread out over the country and their eyesight covers huge areas. They don't see anywhere near 9.5 million people! I call scam!
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Re: Nostalrius Online Players Scam? 2.0

by Drain » Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:51 pm

This video doesn't prove anything except that 1 guy alt tabbed a bunch of characters. The game's online player counter is not fake. If you bother to do real research, such as /who every specific zone on Alliance+Horde, you can see the population is real. They also group. And talk. And do dungeons. And kill each other. Suggesting all this is one big pile of A.I. is quite absurd. People like who made this video are just trying to attack the server, and naturally, they disable comments so they don't get drowned in negative comments(who they would probably accuse of being more bots anyway, lol).
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Re: Nostalrius Online Players Scam? 2.0

by Sifle » Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:52 pm

Man, i didn't know i'd need to grab my tin-foil hat when looking at the forums this morning. The "evidence" is so filled with wholes, not even a corrupt judge would go with it.

As was stated before:

100 yards isn't that far. Shit, i can see farther than 100 yards with my graphics turned all the way up (the scenery not npcs/players/nodes) so yeah, you'd definately need more than 11 people to cover all of Elwynn.

Second of all, doing 1 test, in 1 zone, is hardly enough to even come close to "proving the claim". There are so many different issues at hand that could alter your results it's not even funny. Not to mention the fact that even if it was 100% accurate, it's still only 1 zone. If you had done the exact same thing to EVERY zone that had alliance players. And then made accounts so you could do the exact same thing to EVERY zone that had horde players it would be more convincing. I mean, you do realize that when you're alliance, Horde players won't show up in the /who list but they are counted for the total people online right? And same with the opposite.

Also, I always wondered why i'd randomly get disconnected sometimes when the server is over 5k players. It's probably because of shitheads like you that are trying to manipulate the server into having a bad rep.
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Re: Nostalrius Online Players Scam? 2.0

by Dimwit » Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:53 pm

Harmynt wrote:I live in sweden, a country with about 9.5 million inhabitants. Or so the government claims!
I have 11 friends spread out over the country and their eyesight covers huge areas. They don't see anywhere near 9.5 million people! I call scam!


this example is not really comparable, buffoon.
Other than that, the fanboyism on this thread is astounding! OP is not saying he doesn't like the server all he asks is transparency.
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Re: Nostalrius Online Players Scam? 2.0

by Sifle » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:00 pm

Dimwit wrote:
Harmynt wrote:I live in sweden, a country with about 9.5 million inhabitants. Or so the government claims!
I have 11 friends spread out over the country and their eyesight covers huge areas. They don't see anywhere near 9.5 million people! I call scam!


this example is not really comparable, buffoon.
Other than that, the fanboyism on this thread is astounding! OP is not saying he doesn't like the server all he asks is transparency.


It's amazing how simply disagreeing with someone automatically makes you a fanboy now-a-days.
And yeah, actually his example is comparable.
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Re: Nostalrius Online Players Scam? 2.0

by Uro » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:19 pm

im biggest fanboi but I say this server fake n gey. is lik when I drive mi kid too birthday partys an every time I gotta pay him 10$, and I still no get some cake !
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Re: Nostalrius Online Players Scam? 2.0

by RodneYCZ » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:20 pm

Second of all, doing 1 test, in 1 zone, is hardly enough to even come close to "proving the claim". There are so many different issues at hand that could alter your results it's not even funny. Not to mention the fact that even if it was 100% accurate, it's still only 1 zone. If you had done the exact same thing to EVERY zone that had alliance players. And then made accounts so you could do the exact same thing to EVERY zone that had horde players it would be more convincing. I mean, you do realize that when you're alliance, Horde players won't show up in the /who list but they are counted for the total people online right? And same with the opposite.


That's just not true... you just need to test 1 zone. You run /who in the specific zone and get 250 people and then run your own test (of course, if test returns correct value) and get 150 people... you just proved there are faked players. Why would you have to test all zones ? You just need to test 1 zone to prove, that there are fake players. That's because when you are testing hypotesis you could support it with thousands of examples, but you need just ONE counter-example to disprove it. Yes, /who displays only alliance character, but count horde + alliance to total count (which is not BLIZZLIKE, fix it nos !), but I doubt there would be 100 horde players in elwynn forest. Furthermore, maybe his program count enemy players as well.

And about that 100 yard radius... player normal speed is 7y/s, which means you run 100 yards in about 14.3 seconds. Run for 14.3 sec and you will see how far you get, then imagine a circle with that radius. There are 11 of those circles in elwynn forest, yes it doesnt cover all elwynn forest, but it covers a lot of popular places. I could do a map if you'd like, with 11 circles with radius of 100y and centers in places, where characters stood in the video, to show you which area is covered and which not.
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Re: Nostalrius Online Players Scam? 2.0

by Lemonfreezer » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:26 pm

If you go to a government building and claim they're hiding aliens, do you think they will give you the grand tour and show you around?... No they're gonna kick your lunatic ass out. Hence why these threads keep getting locked.

What transperency are you talking about... do you want them to summon all 5000 people in one spot and take a screenshot so you can count them all?

are we in a The X Files episode? "The truth is out there" !! :o :o :o
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Re: Nostalrius Online Players Scam? 2.0

by Stone » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:29 pm

RodneYCZ wrote:I could do a map if you'd like, with 11 circles with radius of 100y and centers in places, where characters stood in the video, to show you which are is covered and which not.


Do it.
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Re: Nostalrius Online Players Scam? 2.0

by Ivina » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:51 pm

Stone wrote:
Ivina wrote:My point is that, if that was true, at least half of displayed players would not answer to wisp. I nade the experiment and got answers of almost everyone.


No, it displays only actual players that are logged on the server, it will never display a character that doesn't exist.


Then you have not even understood what the video is trying to say : /

If the video is rigth, then a /who in a specific area on a specific level would display fake players (which I prooved wrong). Look closely, the said "fake" number is the sum of /who for all levels in the zone.
If you speak about "proofs", then at least try to understand those "proofs" reasonning, that's the minimal requirement!!
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