Worried about Nostalrius policy on banning accounts

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Re: Worried about Nostalrius policy on banning accounts

by Pugger » Wed Sep 16, 2015 7:31 pm

Glenzig wrote:
Pugger wrote:When the Laws of a country are written, they normally say what is not permitted in logical and numerical statementents and define the concepts they use

define "industrial" and define what is the max amount of nodes per hour/week farmed permitted cause I would like to know what is that "cap" to maximise my farming potentials

also I get to that cap with one character, can I log another character to get to the cap with it? or is that cap account based?
In the case it is account based, can i log another account (not multiboxing) and get to the cap? Or is it user-based?

define this kind of things and we are happy, or I will open ticket everytime I farm asking if I can farm 500 nodes this week


This is just absolutely not true. Just try to figure out tax laws, they change every year. Are you saying that if you had no previous knowledge of a specific law, that you could not be charged with breaking it?


wtf? did u even read? they can change but they are written and u can get specific info about them, however here if u try to get info about what is illegal, they tell u to not farm "industrial ammounts", thats not specific and cant define a law
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Re: Worried about Nostalrius policy on banning accounts

by Pugger » Wed Sep 16, 2015 7:34 pm

PriestInOurTime wrote:Don't overreact. Really? Here is what Daemon said first:

Hi,

It is indeed a bug. The respawn pattern should not be deterministic. When a vein despawns, it may, or may not respawn afterwards, or another vein may respawn somewhere else.
You could not predict exactly when/where a vein would spawn on retail.

If there are other nodes bugged (mining or herbs), it is an exploit and it needs to be reported on the bugtracker.

Daemon.


Then he further clarified.

About 5 accounts have been banned for exploiting this bug, that is fixed now.
These accounts were doing it at an "industrial level" (gathering these same nodes way more than 500 times a week !) and thus gathering a lot of gold/items in a very little period of time.


Add both of these together and the story you get is: "These 5 nolifers found what they thought was a good grid spot and farmed it, much like others farm DM East/North or whatever their poison is. However, we decided that the predictability we coded was a mistake and the spawn should be more random and the grind less profitable. Thus we banned these farmers."

If this is NOT the story then for the love of god tell us the real story, with details. Because all your reassurances doesn't do shit unless you tell us what in your view went down. GM's keeping secret their detection methods for hacks and bots make sense, keeping secret what non-bot/non-hack in-game actions can get you banned doesn't. AT ALL.

And remember, knowing that the nodes are on a timer =/= knowing that it isn't intended. Tons of stuff in wow spawn on timer, so coming across that in the world really doesn't raise any red flags.
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Re: Worried about Nostalrius policy on banning accounts

by Druzzil » Wed Sep 16, 2015 7:53 pm

Here's the real question that needs to be asked but isn't being asked:

Are any of us really surprised this happened? I mean it's not as if they promised they would start communicating more than what we've got now.

Between the AV disaster, GRIZZLY, and the whole entire DM cry-fest, something like this was just bound to happen. Anyone who says they are surprised is either new to the server or just plain naive. Nostalrius is clearly not concerned with the way they hand out bans or communicate and they haven't shown a shred of intent to improve. None of this is new or shocking.
Server first Industrial Shaman.
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Re: Worried about Nostalrius policy on banning accounts

by DeeMarie » Wed Sep 16, 2015 9:05 pm

Druzzil wrote:Here's the real question that needs to be asked but isn't being asked:

Are any of us really surprised this happened? I mean it's not as if they promised they would start communicating more than what we've got now.


I don't think anyone except those who got banned are surprised. Problem is, the server has so many cheerleaders who ululate when this happens nothing will change. It's a free server ad nauseam.
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Re: Worried about Nostalrius policy on banning accounts

by Glenzig » Wed Sep 16, 2015 9:08 pm

Pugger wrote:
Glenzig wrote:
Pugger wrote:When the Laws of a country are written, they normally say what is not permitted in logical and numerical statementents and define the concepts they use

define "industrial" and define what is the max amount of nodes per hour/week farmed permitted cause I would like to know what is that "cap" to maximise my farming potentials

also I get to that cap with one character, can I log another character to get to the cap with it? or is that cap account based?
In the case it is account based, can i log another account (not multiboxing) and get to the cap? Or is it user-based?

define this kind of things and we are happy, or I will open ticket everytime I farm asking if I can farm 500 nodes this week


This is just absolutely not true. Just try to figure out tax laws, they change every year. Are you saying that if you had no previous knowledge of a specific law, that you could not be charged with breaking it?


wtf? did u even read? they can change but they are written and u can get specific info about them, however here if u try to get info about what is illegal, they tell u to not farm "industrial ammounts", thats not specific and cant define a law


So you can read and understand the tax laws in your country? Laws are written with a large amount of ambiguity. If you can read and understand all of the laws where you live, I hope you are making a lot of money off of that skill.
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Re: Worried about Nostalrius policy on banning accounts

by Crone » Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:37 pm

i'm worried about getting banned for industrial level biceps. is my concern valid?

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Re: Worried about Nostalrius policy on banning accounts

by ILikeEggs » Thu Sep 17, 2015 3:10 am

Crone wrote:i'm worried about getting banned for industrial level biceps. is my concern valid?

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no but i would be worried about getting banned for being an industrial level tool.
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Re: Worried about Nostalrius policy on banning accounts

by Crone » Thu Sep 17, 2015 3:51 am

ILikeEggs wrote:
Crone wrote:i'm worried about getting banned for industrial level biceps. is my concern valid?

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dear diary,

today i completely stood up to some buff jock on my world of warcraft private server forums

hopefully my story earns me some well deserved upvotes on the sjw reddit and maybe now the girl i like will notice me

can't wait till community college is back in session


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Re: Worried about Nostalrius policy on banning accounts

by ILikeEggs » Thu Sep 17, 2015 3:55 am

got emm.
p.s. cute hair, looks like your boyfriend uses both hands to steer your head? I heard teenage girls practice on bananas maybe you could try that
p.p.s what does sjw stand for?
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Re: Worried about Nostalrius policy on banning accounts

by Crone » Thu Sep 17, 2015 3:58 am

ILikeEggs wrote:got emm.
p.s. cute hair, looks like your boyfriend uses both hands to steer your head? I heard teenage girls practice on bananas maybe you could try that
p.p.s what does sjw stand for?


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