Tanks that expect BOEs, reserved loot.

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Re: Tanks that expect BOEs, reserved loot.

by sumail » Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:39 am

Killstick wrote:
Adwena wrote:
smilkovpetko wrote:join my paladin tank runs = completely free , no reserves and pretty fast runs.

evidence : https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=22875


I want to see you tanking in UBRS, nobody cares much for 45 lvl dungeons really. Protadin is valuable only in Strat/Scholo.


WHAT HAVE YOU DONE. RIP THIS TOPIC


lmao this thread is about to become 10+ pages arguing over the end game viability of prot paladins.
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Re: Tanks that expect BOEs, reserved loot.

by Doofoos » Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:42 am

smilkovpetko wrote:completely free , no reserves

Lets see how it change if you will need something rare like hoj\ironfoe and after that how free your runs will be after you get all your bis items :)
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Re: Tanks that expect BOEs, reserved loot.

by xwraith » Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:09 am

Supply and demand. Simple. I'd much rather let a tank make some money than try to lfm forever, or never find one and have the group fall apart.
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Re: Tanks that expect BOEs, reserved loot.

by Brion » Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:40 pm

xwraith wrote:Supply and demand. Simple. I'd much rather let a tank make some money than try to lfm forever, or never find one and have the group fall apart.

Pretty much. While I'm a future tank who isn't planning on charging, it's absolutely supply and demand and tanks have the option to charge.
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Re: Tanks that expect BOEs, reserved loot.

by Amkô » Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:05 pm

Whiskra wrote:Have you tried making money as a prot specced warrior? You don't.


That's a point.

The DPS-specced classes can farm all they want. What are tanks doing? Yeah tanking in dungeons and "farming" there. So yes, I appreciate that!

Even if a healer says, give me some money or something and I come healing..IMO it's OK.

Or wait 45min/tank for a dungeon ;)
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Re: Tanks that expect BOEs, reserved loot.

by Killstick » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:36 pm

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Whiskra wrote:Or wait 45min/tank for a dungeon ;)


You are forgetting the groupdisband after first wipe or disband when the boss is down your DPS needed and they won't stay for a slow run/more wipes.
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Re: Tanks that expect BOEs, reserved loot.

by Glenzig » Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:18 pm

Brion wrote:
xwraith wrote:Supply and demand. Simple. I'd much rather let a tank make some money than try to lfm forever, or never find one and have the group fall apart.

Pretty much. While I'm a future tank who isn't planning on charging, it's absolutely supply and demand and tanks have the option to charge.


Who is supplying who in this situation though? If tanks don't have a viable farming alternative to running 5 mans, then aren't they kind of up a creek without 4 other people to help them farm money?
In all honesty a 5 man can be run with hybrid tanks, or lesser equipped tanks and still get the job done. Might take longer, but it can still be done. But, if a pure tank has no other way to farm gold than do 5 man runs, then I think that the supply and demand line may have some serious flaws.
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Re: Tanks that expect BOEs, reserved loot.

by Novah » Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:59 pm

I don't have a problem with it as long as the tanks are up front about it. If they wait till you enter the instance then thats lame. I'll probably be looking for some tanks to run me through some shit soon anyways, I'm about to hit 60 sometime this week. Any alliance tanks that are down message my rogue Noväh.
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Re: Tanks that expect BOEs, reserved loot.

by smilkovpetko » Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:26 pm

Glenzig wrote:
Brion wrote:
xwraith wrote:Supply and demand. Simple. I'd much rather let a tank make some money than try to lfm forever, or never find one and have the group fall apart.

Pretty much. While I'm a future tank who isn't planning on charging, it's absolutely supply and demand and tanks have the option to charge.


Who is supplying who in this situation though? If tanks don't have a viable farming alternative to running 5 mans, then aren't they kind of up a creek without 4 other people to help them farm money?
In all honesty a 5 man can be run with hybrid tanks, or lesser equipped tanks and still get the job done. Might take longer, but it can still be done. But, if a pure tank has no other way to farm gold than do 5 man runs, then I think that the supply and demand line may have some serious flaws.


Might take longer,

https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=22875

Define longer and reasons.

Just screw tanks that want to reserve stuffs . Simple as that. They can always farm using professions, respecing to dps and farm by their own.
(who are those greedy tanks that don't want to spend penny for respec and willing to make fortune?)
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Re: Tanks that expect BOEs, reserved loot.

by Glenzig » Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:39 pm

I was actually just conceding a counterpoint before anyone was able to raise it. Even if you're going to say it does take longer, I can't see it being anything more than a marginal difference. Maybe a few minutes. To me it seems like the only one who would care that much about a few minutes would be the tank that is using the runs as a method of farming gold. So it's really kind of a self refuting logic as far as I can tell.
If people are cool with paying a tank to run a 5 man for them, that's great. I don't think it should be something that should become expected though. There may come a time when I pay a tank to run a dungeon, but Im not going to pay someone just because they are a tank.
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