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Re: BOYCOTT "Reserved" groups!

by Uro » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:09 am

Doofoos wrote:
Makai wrote:Oh jeez it didn't occur to me, thank you Captain Obvious.

Let's omit sarcasm: how do you find out who has reserved an item in a Bob's group? You will need this information to create a "image" of the player and his guild, right?

Makai wrote:to remind something that should be obvious: it is not normal to setup groups and reserve items.

"Obvious" and "not normal" to who? And why we have to reckon with their opinion?
I've played on ED from september 2012, i saw "reserved" groups a million times in world chat, and i have not seen any negative attitude towards them. It started here, with a call to boycott and flame out on other people.

Makai wrote:For the record, I've also noticed people calling their contradictors fanatics after 3 sentences are rarely paragons of tolerance themselves, just sayin'.

I do not impose my will on others, and I'm not trying to make one group of people oppress other group of people, as some players in this topic (not you).
Also if you look at the beginning of this thread, you may notice that words like "gtfo, hopes that other people flame them too, pussy" came not from us. And most "Reserve" supporters behave decently and argues quite logically.
PS sorry for bad english.


with 2012 ED you mean 2014 Warsong, cuz that were dis demon came from wen thei got ttired of farmin half baked naxx. ed stil not got aq rip in rip

also Pst yes you got veri bad inglis shuld work on it pleas befor post on dis serius forum k
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Re: BOYCOTT "Reserved" groups!

by riq and snog » Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:16 pm

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riq and snog wrote:Lol is all i can say here... reserving ironfoe? headmasters charge? wtf... flask recipes for guild progress or bis items like hoj i can understand but all other is just lol...


atleast ironfoe is bis all game for prot/retri hybrid pvp palas, and afaik headmasters charge is pre-raiding bis for locks


Palas dmg in pvp comes only from reckbomb....
Pre raid bis would be that offhand from strath live + casterdagger
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Re: BOYCOTT "Reserved" groups!

by SanderP » Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:22 pm

riq and snog wrote:
simppi wrote:
riq and snog wrote:Lol is all i can say here... reserving ironfoe? headmasters charge? wtf... flask recipes for guild progress or bis items like hoj i can understand but all other is just lol...


atleast ironfoe is bis all game for prot/retri hybrid pvp palas, and afaik headmasters charge is pre-raiding bis for locks


Palas dmg in pvp comes only from reckbomb....
Pre raid bis would be that offhand from strath live + casterdagger


A dagger would clearly be bis for a paladin. :lol:
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Re: BOYCOTT "Reserved" groups!

by Bezawit » Wed Mar 11, 2015 1:20 pm

My vote is for a staff.
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Re: BOYCOTT "Reserved" groups!

by simppi » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:17 pm

riq and snog wrote:Palas dmg in pvp comes only from reckbomb....
Pre raid bis would be that offhand from strath live + casterdagger


Since u obv dont know shit about locks or palas, pls stfu.
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Re: BOYCOTT "Reserved" groups!

by SanderP » Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:25 pm

simppi wrote:
riq and snog wrote:Palas dmg in pvp comes only from reckbomb....
Pre raid bis would be that offhand from strath live + casterdagger


Since u obv dont know shit about locks or palas, pls stfu.


Clearly topic.

So, point was made.
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Re: BOYCOTT "Reserved" groups!

by Crispin » Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:38 am

rotten wrote:
simppi wrote:i dont get what ppl are so mad about, its my own decision if i wanna reserve something and if ppl want that item they can just make their own grp or find a grp that doesnt have that item reserved.
im not gonna do 40 emp runs for ironfoe and then lose it to sum rogue who is doing his first run.


We are mad because you have no right to employ such selfish/greedy tactics. it is this type of solo-centric mentality that crippled wow retail. This is an MMORPG... it is a GROUP effort-not a single player game. All should have the right to roll on whatever items they feel fit to. Who are you to decide that items can be "reserved". This mentality is frightening and is the major contributor to why WoW has fallen victim to such scumbaggery over the years. this current generation and their me me me mindset. Instant gratification has no place in vanilla! I, for one, will NEVER take part in any "item reserved" grps...I suggest everyone else think for themselves and let reason decide.


Beautiful and I could not have said it better myself.

About a year ago I tried my first private wow server, feenix tbc. It was a lot of fun, but I was shocked when I found about the reserved nonsense. It was everywhere and it just messed up some of the mentality by playing a mmorpg. I pray I never have to experience that on this server, it really is a disgusting and worrying development.

I do understand that people who have never or rarely experienced this trend do not understand why it's such a problem. And looking at it outside of everything it may not sound like an issue at all. But it is, it's doing something with people and the way they think and act. It's a disease for a mmorpg game. If this thing catches on I think most of you will understand what I mean.
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Re: BOYCOTT "Reserved" groups!

by CapnPrat » Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:29 am

The alternative is just avoiding taking classes that would want the item that you're after, thereby depriving them of any chance at loot in that run.

I can't remember a time in which I've reserved an item in a run, but I really don't see the problem with it. I mean, to be honest, it's better than the alternative. Which as I mentioned before is to exclude classes that might take your item entirely.
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Re: BOYCOTT "Reserved" groups!

by CapnPrat » Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:39 am

Crispin wrote:
rotten wrote:
simppi wrote:i dont get what ppl are so mad about, its my own decision if i wanna reserve something and if ppl want that item they can just make their own grp or find a grp that doesnt have that item reserved.
im not gonna do 40 emp runs for ironfoe and then lose it to sum rogue who is doing his first run.


We are mad because you have no right to employ such selfish/greedy tactics. it is this type of solo-centric mentality that crippled wow retail. This is an MMORPG... it is a GROUP effort-not a single player game. All should have the right to roll on whatever items they feel fit to. Who are you to decide that items can be "reserved". This mentality is frightening and is the major contributor to why WoW has fallen victim to such scumbaggery over the years. this current generation and their me me me mindset. Instant gratification has no place in vanilla! I, for one, will NEVER take part in any "item reserved" grps...I suggest everyone else think for themselves and let reason decide.


Beautiful and I could not have said it better myself.

About a year ago I tried my first private wow server, feenix tbc. It was a lot of fun, but I was shocked when I found about the reserved nonsense. It was everywhere and it just messed up some of the mentality by playing a mmorpg. I pray I never have to experience that on this server, it really is a disgusting and worrying development.

I do understand that people who have never or rarely experienced this trend do not understand why it's such a problem. And looking at it outside of everything it may not sound like an issue at all. But it is, it's doing something with people and the way they think and act. It's a disease for a mmorpg game. If this thing catches on I think most of you will understand what I mean.


No, I don't understand what you mean, I've been playing this game since late Vanilla, and I've always ALWAYS seen groups that were reserving items. And you know what? I just didn't go on that run if that was the only item I wanted from that dungeon. If there was other loot in the dungeon I was interested in, I'd usually say, "oh well" and go on the run anyway.

I mean, any run you go on, there's always a chance that the item you want just simply won't drop. And yeah, that removes one more item from the loot table, IF IT'S EVEN SOMETHING YOU NEED/WANT, but big deal?

I mean, I feel like you people have to be trolling on this issue. There is no possible way you guys can look at the alternative, which is excluding classes that can use the item you want, and think THAT is the better alternative.

I mean, the other alternative is everyone trying to be a fucking care bear and just take whoever, but I've never met a single player in this game that is going to take a class that will be taking his/her gear that they want. They make groups that can't take their items, or they reserve specific items. The reserving is the better choice, and if you somehow can't see that... you're on the back side of the bell curve buddy.
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Re: BOYCOTT "Reserved" groups!

by rakei » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:36 am

Don't like the rules of the group, don't go or better yet make your own.
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