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[farrsa]

master looter loot threshhold epic

[Soulxlock]

Backpacks are all needed because everyone can claim to not have all 16 slotters yet.

Don't want to blow your mind but on the PvE server we always roll greed on backpacks and it always works out that way. Interesting to see that it's different on the PvP server where people feel much more anonymous due to the huge population.

Also when Staff of Jordan dropped in ZF only the mage and me (warlock) rolled need for it, the rest passed. The run then continued without any drama and the mage congratulated me.

[Syrma]

I cant really understand, how one can defend the "I can use the BoE, hence I have a full right to get it". It seems completely BS...it's like if you wanted people to pass on Righteous Orbs only because you need them and they don't. Guess what, there's gear and then there's gold. Don't get me wrong, I don't support any type of ninja behavior whatsoever, but this can't possibly be considered as one. If a flask recipe drops, everyone is gonna need on it, even though they might not be alchemysts or to put it in a different way - they would not use it for them selves. Unless you agreed upon a certain terms, you are being ultimately selfish in claiming a high value BoE drop.

Let me put it this way. Player A wants to use the item, player B wants the gold. Both players have 1000 gold on their accounts. Both players hit need roll. Two scenarios can occur:

1) Player A wins: YAY, he gets to use the item, sooner or later, and he saves 300 gold (in other words, is a 300 gold richer, cuz he would have to otherwise buy it on AH) in the process by not having to buy it on AH if he trully NEEDed it. Player B "loses" 300 gold by not getting to sell it on AH. Final score: Player A has 1000 gold and the book and player B has 1000 gold and no book.
2) Player B wins: Player B gets to sell it for 300 gold and therefore he gains 300 gold (like player A does in case 1). Player A will have to spend 300 gold for it on AH. Final score: Player A has 700 gold and the book and Player B has 1300 gold.

The bottom line is...somebody is gonna be 300 gold richer after obtaining the item and the other one will be 300 gold poorer, it's simple as that. You are just being mad, that you lost the roll and you are kicking around yourself like a little baby.

Again, I don't support any type of ninjaloot behavior on BoP items, just to enrich yourself for 5g, when the value for the guy who will use it might be priceless, but whining about others not passing on BoE items, where the value is hundreds of gold just because I am too poor to get it on the AH is plain selfish and I would not want to be surrounded by such people. The value on BoE items (which you dont vendor or DE) is in reality exactly the same for both of the players, it just depends on how you look at it.

[Arucado]

Shit happens man, get over it and be more careful next time who you go with.

[Levinas]

OR...

Perhaps caring so much about your in-game currency is outright laughable. This is a game and not only that, but an 11+ year old iteration of said game, played on a private server. The only reason that it makes sense to play here is to play for a community feeling. A thing that is influenced very poorly by greedy, selfish individuals.

If an item is an upgrade for a player and they are going to equip said item, I don't care if it says BOE or BOP, they should have it or at least, I, the one, to whom the item is not an upgrade, should not roll against them.

You can keep making up excuses for why rolling need makes sense under certain circumstances, but in reality you are just wasting space, as it's still putting your in-game money concerns over another player's character development. In another word; greed. If you are a greedy scumbag then at least own up to it and be the bad guy that we can all hate.

[Thatoneguy]

The only reason that it makes sense to play here is to play for a community feeling. A thing that is influenced very poorly by greedy, selfish individuals.

Exactly what the OP shows by claiming 'mine', as shown in his own picture. He has no community feeling. He only cared about himself and judged another player as 'toxic' for not fulfilling his greed for a sup-par epic.

This entire thread is created by him out of personal vengeance, not because he wants to warn the community. If his wish was for the community then he would let the people decide, but no. OP went as far as to ridicule a guildmaster for not kicking the winner of a fair roll out of a guild. That's a decision he has nothing to do with in the first place.

If you are a community player you share the gold as I said in the first post I made in this thread, you wouldn't give it away to a greedy player.

[Levinas]

Exactly what the OP shows by claiming 'mine', as shown in his own picture. He has no community feeling. He only cared about himself and judged another player as 'toxic' for not fulfilling his greed for a sup-par epic.

This entire thread is created by him out of personal vengeance, not because he wants to warn the community. If his wish was for the community then he would let the people decide, but no. OP went as far as to ridicule a guildmaster for not kicking the winner of a fair roll out of a guild. That's a decision he has nothing to do with in the first place.

If you are a community player you share the gold as I said in the first post I made in this thread, you wouldn't give it away to a greedy player.

I think you are taking the Devil's advocate thingy to the extreme here, but I will agree with you that the "mine" comment was pretty poorly chosen. Nothing in this game is yours. It's just bit of code and a lot of RNG and of course us, the players.

Had I been the Warrior, I would have asked people to politely pass, as the item would be an important part of my tank gear. If someone would have need rolled despite of this, I would have accepted it and put said individual on my ignore list. In case of really poor behaviour, I might have even contacted the guild master, but that's about it.

I also agree with you that the way this is blown up is a bit ridiculous, but the way you are trying to discredit the OP is just as poor taste. Why he has a reason for acting this way (frustration, need for revenge, petty feelings of entitlement), I have a harder time understanding your motive? Are you the Druid, a friend/guildmate of his or are you just pro greed rolling on everything?

[Thatoneguy]

I have a harder time understanding your motive? Are you the Druid, a friend/guildmate of his or are you just pro greed rolling on everything?

I'm here to waste some time while on public transportation. If you read through my history you will find out quickly that I don't play alliance. I also have never experienced the loss of an epic duo to poor communication.

[farrsa]

Backpacks are all needed because everyone can claim to not have all 16 slotters yet.

Don't want to blow your mind but on the PvE server we always roll greed on backpacks and it always works out that way. Interesting to see that it's different on the PvP server where people feel much more anonymous due to the huge population.

Also when Staff of Jordan dropped in ZF only the mage and me (warlock) rolled need for it, the rest passed. The run then continued without any drama and the mage congratulated me.

*john lennon - imagine starts playing in the background*

[Bambam]

It's the opposite. There are shitters here that think they own everything they could potentially use. When you run a 5 man with strangers you don't own any BoE drop.

When the group lets you have a BoE it's out of generosity.

So if by chance, a very very good loot drops, it has stats with intel, stamina, spell damage and crit, it's ok for a warrior to roll on it, is that what you are saying ?

You greedy little ^$*!:;,n (not you only, guys who think as you do)