Make it impossible to solo DM North as a "HUNTER"

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Re: Make it impossible to solo DM North as a "HUNTER"

by Anamolly » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:48 pm

Well whatever way it is ppl gonna cry.

I bet we re in before a thread that complains about these high enchanting mats and manapotion/herb prices.
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Re: Make it impossible to solo DM North as a "HUNTER"

by Holmes » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:55 pm

Anamolly wrote:Well whatever way it is ppl gonna cry.

yes, but its the devs job to ignore the crybabies and focus on their servers goal and make rational decisions.

or is the servers goal to serve all forums crybabies now?
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Re: Make it impossible to solo DM North as a "HUNTER"

by Poster » Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:08 pm

Holmes wrote:yes, but its the devs job to ignore the crybabies and focus on their servers goal and make rational decisions.

or is the servers goal to serve all forums crybabies now?


Its also their job to do some research before they "fix" things. Tribute was working as intended. Blizz made the fight the way it was so any combination of dps could complete a tribute run with a tank and healer. The only reason blizz changed, not "fixed", the fight was to cater to the whiners. You can all go read up on patch 1.9.3 about this.
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Re: Make it impossible to solo DM North as a "HUNTER"

by forlorn » Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:09 pm

*Repost from another thread*
They applied a similar "fix" (read: breaking the game pathing) to the first boss of DM N Guard Mol'Dar. At launch warlocks and to some extent deep frost mages were able to solo him and the dog packs by alternating their positions from the ledge on the ramp to the ledge going around the room. This actually impressed me, because for once I saw mobs inside dungeons pathing correctly, and not flying/going through walls. Bravo. Then several weeks ago they changed it so as soon as you jump on the lower ledge, the whole encounter resets. GG nost. I didn't say anything at the time of the change because it really wasn't a spectacular way of making money nor farming enchanting reagents as a lock, but seeing as Nost have moved on from just one boss to the next I felt like I needed to make it known.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up03rGFB-SY (It didn't work quite like this on Nost, you couldn't change the direction of the mobs just by stepping to and fro on the ramp ledge.. you actually had to jump down as shown in the beginning.)
On Nost prior to the change: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG7wg2DVeN8
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Re: Make it impossible to solo DM North as a "HUNTER"

by Armilus » Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:59 pm

Holmes wrote:
Anamolly wrote:Well whatever way it is ppl gonna cry.

yes, but its the devs job to ignore the crybabies and focus on their servers goal and make rational decisions.

or is the servers goal to serve all forums crybabies now?


I'm pretty sure that's what they just did.

Blizzard also made changes like this to fix problems with the game. If it's too easy to farm gold, it fucks up the economy on the server. Take a look at the price of black lotus, it just keeps going up and up and up. It will continue to go up forever because there is too much gold being created by selling shit to vendors and not enough disappearing from paying for flights, respecing, repairing and AH fees.

If the economy is fucked, the server is fucked. So ya, sometimes they have to make changes to fix blizz-like problems. Some of these probably weren't a big deal back in retail because there wasn't that many people that knew about it. It's been 10 years, everyone knows now. With hundreds of people farming DM N and DM E it's fucking up the economy.
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Re: Make it impossible to solo DM North as a "HUNTER"

by Holmes » Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:10 pm

Armilus wrote:
Holmes wrote:
Anamolly wrote:Well whatever way it is ppl gonna cry.

yes, but its the devs job to ignore the crybabies and focus on their servers goal and make rational decisions.

or is the servers goal to serve all forums crybabies now?


I'm pretty sure that's what they just did.

Blizzard also made changes like this to fix problems with the game. If it's too easy to farm gold, it fucks up the economy on the server. Take a look at the price of black lotus, it just keeps going up and up and up. It will continue to go up forever because there is too much gold being created by selling shit to vendors and not enough disappearing from paying for flights, respecing, repairing and AH fees.

If the economy is fucked, the server is fucked. So ya, sometimes they have to make changes to fix blizz-like problems. Some of these probably weren't a big deal back in retail because there wasn't that many people that knew about it. It's been 10 years, everyone knows now. With hundreds of people farming DM N and DM E it's fucking up the economy.

i can agree with you that the servers economy has to be protected. but in first place they should communicate with the ppl about it. they should tell the players that they think theres a problem and are trying to find a way to solve it. "fixing" 1 boss that mainly hits 1 class while there are still 20 other ways to ruin the servers economy just as much is not only a non blizzlike change, but also not fair. and not transparent at all, i guess thas why some ppl are mainly really upset now.
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Re: Make it impossible to solo DM North as a "HUNTER"

by Proctologist » Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:49 pm

I really don't care about this, I really don't... BUT, I grow weary of Nostalrius staff team first of marketing this as a fully blizzlike server, then they rogue implement custom fixes and scripts without notifying the population.
About half a year ago Viper said the backbone of a healthy server is the communication from the staff to the players, which quite frankly is POOR, really POOR.

They ban without hestitation and they have GMs that aren't even familiar with their own ToS nor how basic mechanics work ingame, nor do they recognize the most of the MOST popular addons for this client.
(Not trying to generalise here but I've come across several occasions where the GM could not tell me/him/us if it was allowed or not, could not reset this or that because he/she lacked the skills and e.g AV ban incident where the GM in contact with monkeynews/maitoz did not know what Lazypig was and accused NOPE of creating the addon).

A lot of things were BAD in vanilla retail, trust me, I played retail vanilla although I was barely in my teens when I started... Point being some of these things are worth countering with fixes to prevent getting a severe and injust advantage over others, such as super easy income of gold by farming Dm tribute, some hunters have over 20k gold, 1k gold could be achieved a day with 1 hunter.. Some hunters could have over 50k gold or more, and I'm not even being delusional or paranoid right now.

Anyway, I realise they have fixed DM North tribute now, you can't move Gordok apparently without him resetting, aka kite, and u have to use the disguise.. Good? Perhaps, annoying cuz some of us still want raid buffs? Mhmmm, maybe but not really, still easy to get the buffs if you're willing.

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Re: Make it impossible to solo DM North as a "HUNTER"

by TheNerfPetitioner » Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:43 pm

The correct fix would have been linking Cho and King even though this was done in 1.9. Instead it's broken
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Re: Make it impossible to solo DM North as a "HUNTER"

by cookiemonster212 » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:29 pm

I'm still able to do how I used to solo DM tribute as a hunter. Did the GM revert back the changes? Still seems as it was before the "OMG THEY BROKE IT" posts.

I did see a lvl 1 "tribute trigger" npc though, that is new to me.

Certainly not blizzlike, the Nost team are gonna have a bad name ninja updating it (if ever they did).
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Re: Make it impossible to solo DM North as a "HUNTER"

by Rackade » Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:30 pm

I can only kill the caster atm
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