Worried about Nostalrius policy on banning accounts

[Xylon666Darkstar]

i'm worried about getting banned for industrial level biceps. is my concern valid?

no but i would be worried about getting banned for being an industrial level tool.

[Crone]

i'm worried about getting banned for industrial level biceps. is my concern valid?

no but i would be worried about getting banned for being an industrial level tool.

xylon gives off a masterful school shooter vibe

[Badtank]

got emm.
p.s. cute hair, looks like your boyfriend uses both hands to steer your head? I heard teenage girls practice on bananas maybe you could try that
p.p.s what does sjw stand for?

Are you really using gay as a fucking insult you faggot? Nothing wrong with sucking a dick or ten.

[keyl]

as crone's irl girlfriend I can attest to the fact that he is bisexual and that's 100% ok

[roland79]

Don't overreact. Really? Here is what Daemon said first:

Hi,

It is indeed a bug. The respawn pattern should not be deterministic. When a vein despawns, it may, or may not respawn afterwards, or another vein may respawn somewhere else.
You could not predict exactly when/where a vein would spawn on retail.

If there are other nodes bugged (mining or herbs), it is an exploit and it needs to be reported on the bugtracker.

Daemon.

Then he further clarified.

About 5 accounts have been banned for exploiting this bug, that is fixed now.
These accounts were doing it at an "industrial level" (gathering these same nodes way more than 500 times a week !) and thus gathering a lot of gold/items in a very little period of time.

Add both of these together and the story you get is: "These 5 nolifers found what they thought was a good grid spot and farmed it, much like others farm DM East/North or whatever their poison is. However, we decided that the predictability we coded was a mistake and the spawn should be more random and the grind less profitable. Thus we banned these farmers."

If this is NOT the story then for the love of god tell us the real story, with details. Because all your reassurances doesn't do shit unless you tell us what in your view went down. GM's keeping secret their detection methods for hacks and bots make sense, keeping secret what non-bot/non-hack in-game actions can get you banned doesn't. AT ALL.

And remember, knowing that the nodes are on a timer =/= knowing that it isn't intended. Tons of stuff in wow spawn on timer, so coming across that in the world really doesn't raise any red flags.

[Kil]

I like all the "Industrial level" and "Knowingly exploited" crap.

I know one of the banned accounts. He had about 30 crystals and 400 gold. That's some industrial shit. I could tell you five ways to make twice that in an afternoon.

Meanwhile, I know other guys (that one guy everyone hates that had twitch vids of farming nodes 14 hours a day (but will remain nameless) as an example (I don't know him personally but I did watch some of the streams)) sitting on hundreds of crystals and thousands of gold that have been farming those nodes consistently for months.

If I had to guess, I would say Nost watched the nodes for about a half hour and banned everyone that hit more than 1.

I don't think anyone is overreacting. Permabanned because you happened to farm some thorium at the wrong time? With about 5 minutes of investigation you could have found the actual industrial level farmers.

I can't speak for the other 4 accounts but at least one didn't do anything wrong.

[Ohr]

That's exactly what I wanted to say happened. I know him too. It can't be more obvious that 30 mins of standing in a hive invisible and waiting for anyone to come farm a node was their whole investigation. And to be honest, that's not the first time I've seen GMs do it that way.
If you find an exploit like this you either need to check people's inventory and what they have on AH, not just ban whoever right clicks a piece of cyan colored stone.

What was supposed to be done, was one GM watches the nodes and inspects every person mining (bank, inventory, AH), while a dev removes the nodes from the database (or moves them -9999 on Z axis), restart server, apply this micro patch before you can sit down and work on the respawns. When you got a correct "fix" ready and coded, restart the server again and make a forum thread in announcements, announcing that there was a bug, what the bug was, how it was fixed, how long it took for you to fix and what measures were taken against the exploiters. Then proceed to ban the "industrial level" farmers by exposing how much of the stuff they had the time they were caught.

Is it really that hard or time consuming to address more important issues like this and take some time to make sure that no one was getting banned for no reason. If I wasn't playing, I'd apply for GM myself and spend 4 hours/day only on forum communication answering questions.

[nostplz]

I honestly think the nostalrius team watched the hives for some hours at only one specific day. I got banned for what they call now "a major bug exploit" http://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=21515&start=10

I did, as stated in my post, mine once with my hunter(horde) for a few hours in one (the most northern) hive. I started at about 2am server time and mined until ca 6-7am. I didnt continue cause a rogue (terrigurl) started contesting my veins. I have also seen "rippahisback" and some cross-faction farmers (i dont remember the names). I made overall about 10 Arcane Crystals and maybe like 20 stacks thoriumbars and 10 stacks dense stones ("industrial level"???).

I know at least 5 people who made over 10k gold (yes 10k gold worth of arcane crystals/bars and thorium stuff) who didnt get banned, i will obviously not say any names but come on nost. This is the most unfair issue which has ever happend to me in my WoW playtime.

I am pretty sure they have only banned people who were unlucky enough to farm at this specific date, thats honestly the most fucked up thing i have seen so far and it makes me really sad. I have spent a lot of time on this server and enjoyed it alot too and now i got banned because i was at the WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME...
And i was so hyped for bwl

-nostplz

[Datruth]

No one was banned for farming anything on an "industrial level" people were banned because they farmed with the help from a bug on an industrial level (Read: In this situation industrial means more than a few times)

The passive mobs are supposed to aggro once you start mining or if you start fighting near them. If you actually believe anyone was banned purely because of the fact that they farmed in high amounts or because the spawns were fixed (anyone remember black lotuses?), then there is no other way to describe you besides as a gullible moron.
Amazing how people jump on these shitpost trains without any second thoughts.

[terrigurl]

No one was banned for farming anything on an "industrial level" people were banned because they farmed with the help from a bug on an industrial level (Read: In this situation industrial means more than a few times)

The passive mobs are supposed to aggro once you start mining or if you start fighting near them. If you actually believe anyone was banned purely because of the fact that they farmed in high amounts or because the spawns were fixed (anyone remember black lotuses?), then there is no other way to describe you besides as a gullible moron.
Amazing how people jump on these shitpost trains without any second thoughts.

As I said before, you could mine every single vein in northern Silithus without being in aggro-range of these Worker-mobs. Told you this a couple of times now but seems like you can't get it through your thick skull. You have no idea what you're talking about so please, spare us your shit.

EDIT: If we were banned for doing it more than "a few times", then why did not the ones earning 10k+ gold, as mentioned earlier, receive any bans?