why all the bosses are so freaking easy ?

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Re: why all the bosses are so freaking easy ?

by Psyfer » Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:07 pm

You said
That is because you are living in "Privacy" servers world where 70% of the stuffs doesn't work properly at all.

In retail Warriors was the most terrible DPS in Game and mainly dps Warriors was Arms,fury was unthinkable, even worse than Retribution Paladins.

http://web.archive.org/web/200611102253 ... 0022&sid=1

See the evidence for yourself from the Original Blizzard Forums back in 2006 1.12.1 patch ^


Warriors are clearly the top dps and that guy does over 1500. Fury is by far the top dps and not even close to being compared to ret paladins. Also, thats a guy doing 1500 dps when the rest of the player are playing averagely. When everyone in the raid does better dammage, the fight lasts shorter, and you naturally end up with a higher dps number.

You've shown in a couple of posts you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. You claim facts when you are in fact clueless. Why should anyone believe anything you say when you display a clear lack of understanding the game, and you've shown yourself willing to lie to make your point look better?

I'm done responding to you since it's a fruitless effort. Keep trying to lie and misinform the public, hopefully some people will see this and not bother reading your useless trashposts.
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Re: why all the bosses are so freaking easy ?

by Snautz » Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:12 pm

Psyfer wrote:I'm done responding to you since it's a fruitless effort. Keep trying to lie and misinform the public, hopefully some people will see this and not bother reading your useless trashposts.

Don't worry, I think most people who frequents these forums have reached the same conclusion.
Sad to see someone be this deluded tho
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Re: why all the bosses are so freaking easy ?

by smilkovpetko » Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:19 pm

Psyfer wrote:You said
That is because you are living in "Privacy" servers world where 70% of the stuffs doesn't work properly at all.

In retail Warriors was the most terrible DPS in Game and mainly dps Warriors was Arms,fury was unthinkable, even worse than Retribution Paladins.

http://web.archive.org/web/200611102253 ... 0022&sid=1

See the evidence for yourself from the Original Blizzard Forums back in 2006 1.12.1 patch ^


Warriors are clearly the top dps and that guy does over 1500. Fury is by far the top dps and not even close to being compared to ret paladins. Also, thats a guy doing 1500 dps when the rest of the player are playing averagely. When everyone in the raid does better dammage, the fight lasts shorter, and you naturally end up with a higher dps number.

You've shown in a couple of posts you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. You claim facts when you are in fact clueless. Why should anyone believe anything you say when you display a clear lack of understanding the game, and you've shown yourself willing to lie to make your point look better?

I'm done responding to you since it's a fruitless effort. Keep trying to lie and misinform the public, hopefully some people will see this and not bother reading your useless trashposts.


i might be lying.


http://web.archive.org/web/200611102253 ... 0022&sid=1

But this doesn't lie ^ , it is original Blizzard Warrior Forum from 2006.

http://web.archive.org/web/200607181219 ... post155290
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Re: why all the bosses are so freaking easy ?

by Rylox » Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:13 pm

You can't compare the cleave mode ~20 second long MC fight DPS to a 5 minute Patchwerk come on now....
Closest things to compare to that Patchwerk theoretical max are Magmadar, Ebonroc, and Flamegor.
All of which can be greatly skewed with such a high possible percent of the fight having Death Wish and/or Recklessness in addition to a threat reduction mechanic the DPS can eat.
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Re: why all the bosses are so freaking easy ?

by metagame » Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:39 pm

Plenty of A-list players from EQ and other games quit to play WoW and 1-shot content on release day in 2005/2006. The challenge isn't in the content itself but finding 39 other people who care as much and someone who can lead them effectively. Streams and videos and 10 years of experience make the potential pool of talent much wider.

RE: DPS meters: Nost and retail vanilla are and always will be different games. Bugs and modified engine code inevitably lead to thousands of combinations of tiny inconsistencies that add up quickly. Also as stated previously people are just better at the game in general.
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Re: why all the bosses are so freaking easy ?

by Dr. Doom » Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:45 pm

smilkovpetko wrote:full Naxx Gear , full Consumes , full World Buffs and 1500 dps. (with respectful of top 5 high end guild)

Look the difference now

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/BossL ... ?realm=NRB

(they might have full world buffs and consumes , but they are not even close to Naxx Gear)
over 1.7k


This is actually an extremely good question. By the time Naxxramas was being beaten, vanilla raiding guilds had already tweaked out most builds, tricks, rotations, and such that people replicate here today. If the guy had that + all the power-up tools of consumables and world buff + substantially better gear, why is he pulling less numbers than what Nostalrius BWL geared guys are?
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Re: why all the bosses are so freaking easy ?

by Keftenk » Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:01 pm

Please produce a video where there is a person min/maxing buffs from 05-06. I don't think I've seen a single video with someone using Flask/Elixirs+Rallycry+Zandalar+Songflower+PI rotations+Invul pots.+everything else, etc. I see a combination of these, sure but definitely not all of them.

Also, before you even continue further. Maybe you should actually participate in these raids where individuals on Nost are blowing the meters up. I can assure you that these encounters aren't executed in the same manner as they were 10 years ago.

I bet even rotations are different on Nost compared to what they were 10 years ago. From a healer perspective, I definitely don't sit around using Healing Touch as my primary heal. Hell, even gear wise we don't even utilize the same setups. A lot of people in vanilla often used resistance gear to help their raid out. I will agree that people started wising up to the lack of importance resistance actually was by AQ (I myself only ran +45NR in gear for AQ40 10 years ago), but taking gear that has resistance on it is an excessive drop in total dps and how long a fight actually lasts.
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Re: why all the bosses are so freaking easy ?

by netameta » Wed Mar 09, 2016 12:05 am

Dr. Doom wrote:
smilkovpetko wrote:full Naxx Gear , full Consumes , full World Buffs and 1500 dps. (with respectful of top 5 high end guild)

Look the difference now

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/BossL ... ?realm=NRB

(they might have full world buffs and consumes , but they are not even close to Naxx Gear)
over 1.7k


This is actually an extremely good question. By the time Naxxramas was being beaten, vanilla raiding guilds had already tweaked out most builds, tricks, rotations, and such that people replicate here today. If the guy had that + all the power-up tools of consumables and world buff + substantially better gear, why is he pulling less numbers than what Nostalrius BWL geared guys are?



Exactly the point - because nostalrius is fucked up, its not in par with how vanilla was. as simple as that.
Has nothing to do with anything else, you kids need to wake up.

I am not saying nostalrius isnt fun, i am saying that - vanilla like - thats bullshit especially in the most important aspect (difficulty)
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Re: why all the bosses are so freaking easy ?

by Keftenk » Wed Mar 09, 2016 12:10 am

Break down the math for us then, please.
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