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by Iauren » Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:40 am

Dawntix wrote:Ubrs Rend run. So this rogue Seronys is doing a UBRS felstrike RESV run. Was bored so joined anyway hoping for swords to drop since i need them for farming.

Get to Rend and Sword OH drops . Me and another rogue rolls , I won the roll but the ML ( seronys ) rogue gives it to a Paladin...... thats right ...he gives the Swords OH to a paladin.

So watch out Allaince side Seronys Rogue from guild S I X is a scumbag

Gotta say I agree with Seronys... You need rolled on a BOP item to vendor it, then threw a fit when you weren't given the item since you didn't NEED it. Clearly if he gave it to a PALADIN he wasn't trying to ninja it, it's not like he said "fuck this Dawntix guy, I'm gonna give it to my friend instead".. he just knew that you were being a greedy fuck, and thus did what was fair. I find it funny that you took the time to screenshot it, upload screenshot, then come make a forum post just to cry about losing 6 gold lol.
P.S. I have run with Seronys and there were no bad experiences in my run, gl on your felstriker(lol ya right that shit doesn't drop)
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Re: Ninja Looters and players to look out for. Post Screensh

by Dawntix » Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:51 am

Iauren wrote:
Dawntix wrote:Ubrs Rend run. So this rogue Seronys is doing a UBRS felstrike RESV run. Was bored so joined anyway hoping for swords to drop since i need them for farming.

Get to Rend and Sword OH drops . Me and another rogue rolls , I won the roll but the ML ( seronys ) rogue gives it to a Paladin...... thats right ...he gives the Swords OH to a paladin.

So watch out Allaince side Seronys Rogue from guild S I X is a scumbag

Gotta say I agree with Seronys... You need rolled on a BOP item to vendor it, then threw a fit when you weren't given the item since you didn't NEED it. Clearly if he gave it to a PALADIN he wasn't trying to ninja it, it's not like he said "fuck this Dawntix guy, I'm gonna give it to my friend instead".. he just knew that you were being a greedy fuck, and thus did what was fair. I find it funny that you took the time to screenshot it, upload screenshot, then come make a forum post just to cry about losing 6 gold lol.
P.S. I have run with Seronys and there were no bad experiences in my run, gl on your felstriker(lol ya right that shit doesn't drop)


Talking about something you really know nothing about explains to me what a simpleton you really are. Read my post before you come and defend your buddy. The only people that keeps bringing up 6g is you and your buddy. If he wanted to be fair and not act like a dick he could have asked my why I needed it and give me time to explain. He could have also Raid rolled and then asked me to give 6g to the person who won so that i can get the sword. That would have been fair right???? Instead he acted like a dick and your defending that.

When you run a dung there is simple rules. MS over OS and if nobody needs something then you can roll for OS.
Also i have the mainhand and only needed the OH. Since nobody wanted the OH, I rolled for it.
You gave it to a pala that can not even use it. So don't try to defend yourself Seronys . And coming up with a 6g vendor how sad is that. Farming with swords is more efficient than farming with daggers that is why I wanted the OH for my Rend set.
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Re: Ninja Looters and players to look out for. Post Screensh

by Iauren » Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:53 am

Dawntix wrote:When you run a dung there is simple rules. MS over OS and if nobody needs something then you can roll for OS.
Also i have the mainhand and only needed the OH. Since nobody wanted the OH, I rolled for it.
You gave it to a pala that can not even use it. So don't try to defend yourself Seronys . And coming up with a 6g vendor how sad is that.

If you're a dagger rogue with GGR and CHT and you would consider switching to Dal Rend's then you might want to invest some time into reading a few rogue guides. Besides the huge raw DPS loss from switching weapons, CHT alone has 1% crit and 20 AP; the only useful stats on the DR combo is the 1% crit and the 50 AP from the 2 piece. You're sacrificing a huge amount of raw damage for 34 AP, and you're losing the proc from Gutgore Ripper.
Since I don't believe you are actually this retarded or uneducated regarding your class, it's pretty clear that you were planning on vendoring the sword.
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Re: Ninja Looters and players to look out for. Post Screensh

by Iauren » Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:57 am

Dawntix wrote: Farming with swords is more efficient than farming with daggers that is why I wanted the OH for my Rend set.

Yea, when the swords and daggers are on-par or close.. but we are talking about little league swords vs. major league daggers. Farming with Vis'kag and Brutality Blade that would be different, but there's no sense in switching to Dal Rends just for farming(especially if you're a fucking dagger rogue, come on mate stop feeding us this bullshit)
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Re: Ninja Looters and players to look out for. Post Screensh

by Dawntix » Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:59 am

Iauren wrote:
Dawntix wrote: Farming with swords is more efficient than farming with daggers that is why I wanted the OH for my Rend set.

Yea, when the swords and daggers are on-par or close.. but we are talking about little league swords vs. major league daggers. Farming with Vis'kag and Brutality Blade that would be different, but there's no sense in switching to Dal Rends just for farming(especially if you're a fucking dagger rogue, come on mate stop feeding us this bullshit)



Talking about something you really know nothing about explains to me what a simpleton you really are. Read my post before you come and defend your buddy. The only people that keeps bringing up 6g is you and your buddy. If he wanted to be fair and not act like a dick he could have asked me why I needed it and give me time to explain. He could have also Raid rolled and then asked me to give 6g to the person who won so that i can get the sword. That would have been fair right???? Instead he acted like a dick and your defending that.
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Re: Ninja Looters and players to look out for. Post Screensh

by Iauren » Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:27 am

Dawntix wrote:
Iauren wrote:
Dawntix wrote: Farming with swords is more efficient than farming with daggers that is why I wanted the OH for my Rend set.

Yea, when the swords and daggers are on-par or close.. but we are talking about little league swords vs. major league daggers. Farming with Vis'kag and Brutality Blade that would be different, but there's no sense in switching to Dal Rends just for farming(especially if you're a fucking dagger rogue, come on mate stop feeding us this bullshit)



Talking about something you really know nothing about explains to me what a simpleton you really are. Read my post before you come and defend your buddy. The only people that keeps bringing up 6g is you and your buddy. If he wanted to be fair and not act like a dick he could have asked me why I needed it and give me time to explain. He could have also Raid rolled and then asked me to give 6g to the person who won so that i can get the sword. That would have been fair right???? Instead he acted like a dick and your defending that.

not my "buddy" but ok. Whether you actually needed the item or not, this wasn't a "ninja". At worst it was bad communication, I can agree that he should have let you explain yourself before looting it to the paladin; that is not an unreasonable request. However, it's a little bit dramatic to call him a ninja and tell people they should avoid grouping with him. He saw that you had better weapons and assumed you were being greedy, people do that shit all the time. Sucks that you didn't get your sword but you already have better weapons so it's really not that big of a deal.
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Re: Ninja Looters and players to look out for. Post Screensh

by PriestInOurTime » Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:00 am

Players ignorantly rolling need or masterlooting away BoP items without checking for the reason for the players actually needing it are almost certainly a bigger problem than ninjas and should certainly be considered for this list.

For future reference to anyone reading this, a good idea in really borderline cases is asking if the player would be willing to offer up the vendorprice or shardprice depending on what is higher for the item. Anyone needing it that just want the discussion to be over will generally agree in a heartbeat.

EDIT: Seems in this case it wasn't a problem. Nm. The principle of MLing away items that player show interest in is a problem overall though and a good reason in its own right to avoid ML pugs.
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Re: Ninja Looters and players to look out for. Post Screensh

by Riv » Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:09 am

tsu wrote:
Riv wrote:TSUZU , guild Drachenstrum- Tank warrior needed on mask of the unforgiven . Just a normal Stratholme living run , 2 wipes at start and then tank needs on head and he doesnt even respond .
http://i.imgur.com/SdXZgi3.jpg


cmon dude, it was a normal run, as you say. why do you think that was a ninja? common roll and i won, wheres your problem?



Where is my problem ? that DPS item dropped , I WAS DPS in the party and I needed for DPS item when TANK '' TAAAANK" Took DPS item , this is the problem . If stonegrip gauntles would drop for example would you let me take it cause thats a common roll ? No cause its a tank item for tanks .
If I would go to dungeon as dps and let healers and tanks roll for every item they want cause its a common drop it would be fucked up . MS > OS in Dungeon . Simple
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Re: Ninja Looters and players to look out for. Post Screensh

by Seronys » Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:03 pm

PriestInOurTime wrote:Players ignorantly rolling need or masterlooting away BoP items without checking for the reason for the players actually needing it are almost certainly a bigger problem than ninjas and should certainly be considered for this list.

For future reference to anyone reading this, a good idea in really borderline cases is asking if the player would be willing to offer up the vendorprice or shardprice depending on what is higher for the item. Anyone needing it that just want the discussion to be over will generally agree in a heartbeat.

If the list was still updated Seronys would certainly deserve to at least be on the warning section of it for his action.


The only player ignorantly rolling need in this case was the rogue with full tier 1 and a core hound tooth as an off hand. In no case is the dal rends off hand better than a core hound tooth. Even if he does swap specs and go with swords to "farm", core hound tooth still provides more dps.

If you look at the screenshot you can see i did ask why he needed that, and if he had time stamps enabled you would see that I gave him a minute to respond before I came to my senses and realized he was just abusing his class and the fact that NO ONE actually needed that item, to get some quick free cash. People like him are the ones that should be put on a list like this.

To argue that a rogue with a CORE HOUND TOOTH (51.3 dps), needs a DAL'REND'S TRIBAL GUARDIAN (41.4 dps), because it's an upgrade is lunacy.
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Re: Ninja Looters and players to look out for. Post Screensh

by Dawntix » Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:55 pm

Seronys wrote:
PriestInOurTime wrote:Players ignorantly rolling need or masterlooting away BoP items without checking for the reason for the players actually needing it are almost certainly a bigger problem than ninjas and should certainly be considered for this list.

For future reference to anyone reading this, a good idea in really borderline cases is asking if the player would be willing to offer up the vendorprice or shardprice depending on what is higher for the item. Anyone needing it that just want the discussion to be over will generally agree in a heartbeat.

If the list was still updated Seronys would certainly deserve to at least be on the warning section of it for his action.


The only player ignorantly rolling need in this case was the rogue with full tier 1 and a core hound tooth as an off hand. In no case is the dal rends off hand better than a core hound tooth. Even if he does swap specs and go with swords to "farm", core hound tooth still provides more dps.

If you look at the screenshot you can see i did ask why he needed that, and if he had time stamps enabled you would see that I gave him a minute to respond before I came to my senses and realized he was just abusing his class and the fact that NO ONE actually needed that item, to get some quick free cash. People like him are the ones that should be put on a list like this.

To argue that a rogue with a CORE HOUND TOOTH (51.3 dps), needs a DAL'REND'S TRIBAL GUARDIAN (41.4 dps), because it's an upgrade is lunacy.


When you start to lie and make up shitt then you know you are wrong. You didn't even give me 5 sec to explain. Otherwise you would have seen it in the Screenshot.
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