How do you guys stand the ganking?

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Re: How do you guys stand the ganking?

by staggaz » Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:48 pm

Garfunkel wrote:Nah bro. Defender can also escape or, in few rare cases, turn the tables and win. Obviously if you're 30 and they are 60 there's nothing you can do but, even as a disc/holy priest, I've managed to kill some players who thought they could easily kill me and I've also managed to escape a number of times. And that's what makes world PVP fun and exciting: it's not fair, it's not balanced and it can be surprising.

Yup describes the dynamic I'm talking about 100%. Just escaping can be just as fun and exciting as getting the kill. Back to my previous story of slow falling from a gank squad last night. They aggro' d a whole village trying to get me. I'm guessing that didn't end well for them.

You don't get fun scenerios like that on a pve server. Again to each their own. But it's an aspect that's making the game tremendously fun again. And for the record. I've been ganked far more times than I've killed due to level. I'm just starting to be able to defend / escape, etc. for me.. It's a blast.
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Re: How do you guys stand the ganking?

by wiznot » Fri Jun 19, 2015 6:23 pm

Garfunkel wrote:That's what makes world PVP fun and exciting: it's not fair


I really have a different sense of competition than you do.
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Re: How do you guys stand the ganking?

by Mdmadam » Fri Jun 19, 2015 6:38 pm

LOL at if some of you played UO in the Vanilla/T2A era ... yikes.
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Re: How do you guys stand the ganking?

by weirdfo » Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:13 am

staggaz wrote:Presumably yes. But the way the game is setup. Vanilla cause retail was changed.


Vanilla is Retail. The server is meant to emulate a close to vanilla/retail/pre-BC experience. Hence patch 1.12. Otherwise it'd be an "alpha" or "beta" server.

PvE servers were part of the vanilla experience. Just saying.
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Re: How do you guys stand the ganking?

by staggaz » Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:15 pm

weirdfo wrote:
staggaz wrote:Presumably yes. But the way the game is setup. Vanilla cause retail was changed.


Vanilla is Retail. The server is meant to emulate a close to vanilla/retail/pre-BC experience. Hence patch 1.12. Otherwise it'd be an "alpha" or "beta" server.

PvE servers were part of the vanilla experience. Just saying.


Right but you missed the point. Point is on a pve server back then you did not have to flag to take a shot at a flagged. You could hit them with a shadow bolt for example. In retail... Currently... You can't do that. You actually have to flag and then you can attack.

But back to your point. Yeah pve servers were a part of vanilla... Just looks like these guys chose to support a pvp server. Pretty cut and dry.
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Re: How do you guys stand the ganking?

by Xaeminos » Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:36 pm

staggaz wrote:
Garfunkel wrote:Nah bro. Defender can also escape or, in few rare cases, turn the tables and win. Obviously if you're 30 and they are 60 there's nothing you can do but, even as a disc/holy priest, I've managed to kill some players who thought they could easily kill me and I've also managed to escape a number of times. And that's what makes world PVP fun and exciting: it's not fair, it's not balanced and it can be surprising.

Yup describes the dynamic I'm talking about 100%. Just escaping can be just as fun and exciting as getting the kill. Back to my previous story of slow falling from a gank squad last night. They aggro' d a whole village trying to get me. I'm guessing that didn't end well for them.

You don't get fun scenerios like that on a pve server. Again to each their own. But it's an aspect that's making the game tremendously fun again. And for the record. I've been ganked far more times than I've killed due to level. I'm just starting to be able to defend / escape, etc. for me.. It's a blast.


staggaz wrote:
Garfunkel wrote:Nah bro. Defender can also escape or, in few rare cases, turn the tables and win. Obviously if you're 30 and they are 60 there's nothing you can do but, even as a disc/holy priest, I've managed to kill some players who thought they could easily kill me and I've also managed to escape a number of times. And that's what makes world PVP fun and exciting: it's not fair, it's not balanced and it can be surprising.

Yup describes the dynamic I'm talking about 100%. Just escaping can be just as fun and exciting as getting the kill. Back to my previous story of slow falling from a gank squad last night. They aggro' d a whole village trying to get me. I'm guessing that didn't end well for them.

You don't get fun scenerios like that on a pve server. Again to each their own. But it's an aspect that's making the game tremendously fun again. And for the record. I've been ganked far more times than I've killed due to level. I'm just starting to be able to defend / escape, etc. for me.. It's a blast.



I completely agree with you. But it's corpse camping that's pretty annoying. Granted, this is a private server but in Vanilla, it was never as bad as I've seen it here. I really do believe that a large portion of the "elitist" and "get gud" player base are just making up for lost time at a game they were probably pretty bad at as young teens.

There are many nice people here and many that are playing the game for the first time. And as a player that has 0 to achieve in actual Vanilla, the social aspect is why I'm back when I can find the time.
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Re: How do you guys stand the ganking?

by Shedaki » Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:35 pm

I logout to avoid every PvP ^^ - It saves me alot of corpsruns
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Re: How do you guys stand the ganking?

by toolshed » Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:46 pm

The best way to level in vanilla was always grinding through dungeons. It may not be the fastest, but: 1) no ganking or pvp, 2) tons of mageweave/runecloth, 3) better gear than questing, and 4) fun to do with a good group of friends over voice chat.

The problem is that people are all using the same vanilla guide or leveling guides, and that will cause you to bottleneck with other people/factions. If you can't find a dungeon group or don't have a good guild, grinding in a part of the world away from major cities is usually pretty good xp. Also, don't play at peak times.
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Re: How do you guys stand the ganking?

by Evoblade » Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:43 pm

I always called STV "gankthorn vale". Just avoid it. Its the Mos Eisley of Vanilla.
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