why all the bosses are so freaking easy ?

[Dr. Doom]

Please produce a video where there is a person min/maxing buffs from 05-06. I don't think I've seen a single video with someone using Flask/Elixirs+Rallycry+Zandalar+Songflower+PI rotations+Invul pots.+everything else, etc. I see a combination of these, sure but definitely not all of them.

Also, before you even continue further. Maybe you should actually participate in these raids where individuals on Nost are blowing the meters up. I can assure you that these encounters aren't executed in the same manner as they were 10 years ago.

I bet even rotations are different on Nost compared to what they were 10 years ago. From a healer perspective, I definitely don't sit around using Healing Touch as my primary heal. Hell, even gear wise we don't even utilize the same setups. A lot of people in vanilla often used resistance gear to help their raid out. I will agree that people started wising up to the lack of importance resistance actually was by AQ (I myself only ran +45NR in gear for AQ40 10 years ago), but taking gear that has resistance on it is an excessive drop in total dps and how long a fight actually lasts.

Are you saying the likes of NOPE, and other raiding guilds in this server, are actually better players than Death and Taxes or Nihilum were in 2006?

[Keftenk]

Were? Absolutely.
Did you know Kungen used 300NR vs the Nightmare Dragons? Lol...

Not that it was a bad idea, but its just evidence of a completely different way of thinking about the mechanics of the game and how to operate under a raid.

[Dr. Doom]

Ok then.
Then the answer is simple by that logic:
People in Nostalrius are substantially better players than anything that existed in retail vanilla, ergo the extremely high skill results in content being too trivial and weak.

[Keftenk]

Most are probably, yea.

[Harm]

full Naxx Gear , full Consumes , full World Buffs and 1500 dps. (with respectful of top 5 high end guild)

Look the difference now

http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/BossL ... ?realm=NRB

(they might have full world buffs and consumes , but they are not even close to Naxx Gear)
over 1.7k

This is actually an extremely good question. By the time Naxxramas was being beaten, vanilla raiding guilds had already tweaked out most builds, tricks, rotations, and such that people replicate here today. If the guy had that + all the power-up tools of consumables and world buff + substantially better gear, why is he pulling less numbers than what Nostalrius BWL geared guys are?

Exactly the point - because nostalrius is fucked up, its not in par with how vanilla was. as simple as that.
Has nothing to do with anything else, you kids need to wake up.

I am not saying nostalrius isnt fun, i am saying that - vanilla like - thats bullshit especially in the most important aspect (difficulty)

Your example is a GNOME sitting in battle stance most of the fight clicking loads of abilities.
You are comparing this to people with 10 times the experience players had back then and you think the server is somehow broken when it comes to difficulty/damage.
Numbers dont lie and they are the same here as they were in vanilla, the only factor that is changed is the experience and knowledge of the player.

Im assuming you are not doing anywhere close to the dmg some people are doing on this server because you are average at best.

[Xaeminos]

Vanilla was never difficult. The logistics and the time put in, made it hard. Some of you still don't get it.

Which is why i find all the chest beating on here pretty funny. You kids are a hoot. Well, maybe now you are't kids, but when everyone was a pimply faced teenager trying to figure this game out.

Now you are back to show a 10 year old game who's boss!

I crack myself up.

[Dr. Doom]

Vanilla was never difficult. The logistics and the time put in, made it hard. Some of you still don't get it.

Which is why i find all the chest beating on here pretty funny. You kids are a hoot. Well, maybe now you are't kids, but when everyone was a pimply faced teenager trying to figure this game out.

Now you are back to show a 10 year old game who's boss!

I crack myself up.

Tbf, WoW has never been advertised as a hard game. There is a reason why EQ/DaoC crowds mocked it from day 1.

I think that... people are just so dissapointed with the downward spiral that has happened in retail, and they look back to previous versions of the game for something better. And granted, even with all the bugs, lags, disconnects, Nostalrius seems like a place where the random user lasts a bit longer than what Blizzard manages to pull off nowadays with WoD. The issue though, is that people so eagerly want something better, than expectations go far beyond the real thing.

There's never been a Kerafym the Sleeper in World of Warcraft.

[netameta]

Most are probably, yea.

NONE-senses.

[Dr. Doom]

Most are probably, yea.

NONE-senses.

I agree with you, but when we reach this point, we're really down fighting egos and arguing about opinions, so I think I'll take my leave from this thread before it gets worse.

[netameta]

I say we all stop playing wow and go eve online ! best game ever !