Nostalrius Begins - Quality wow vanilla realm (1.12)

The GM staff does not care if you are a dedicated player and have invested a lot of time to play this great game.

Hell it's not even their game.

All they care about is the numbers on the server, and if they ban you they don't care about "making things right" like a good and supportive staff would, they are just too busy to care apparently.

A bug I participated with should be fixed, but it's not my fault there is a fishing spot that you can make decent gold farming at, its the servers. Why should they just ban everyone who has been there. I mean over a month i got around 500g - that is an exploit no doubt, but really has any harm been done if i didn't even benefit while having the gold? It just sat on my character. Why not make things right by patching it, and reclaiming the unlawful gold.

This is one thing that should set you apart from blizzard, this is a private server with fans you rely on to play - you don't have to be asshole GMs. You have the power to be great and personable GM's and be responsive to your fan base.

IE: Discretion. Yes. I broke the rules. Did anyone get hurt? No.
Did I benefit from this? Only if i spent the gold and didn't get banned. but that didn't happen.

I did not spend the gold therefore if it was taken away then it would be non-beneficial..

This is a rant, but if you found a good spot to farm gold (9/10 would) and you saved up, in hopes that if it really was "so abusive" that you could just say well shit sorry take it back.

This has turned into such a waste of time, and not to mention I donate to the server because I appreciate the hard work!

But now i am banned, i understand why but, if there is something to make it right I would always try that first, and then if it cannot be done a permanent ban is just - as a final resort.

I was never given a warning, and this apparently is a "Major Bug" which I find preposterous.

I would like to know an example of a "Minor Bug" that requires a warning before ban.

Shouldn't have broke the rules. You knew it wasn't legit but you did it anyway.

Could they be more lenient? Yeah, I would remove all your gold and still let you play.

Their rules, not mine.

Learn from your mistakes, it's your fault not theirs.

Viorus wrote:Shouldn't have broke the rules. You knew it wasn't legit but you did it anyway.

Could they be more lenient? Yeah, I would remove all your gold and still let you play.

Their rules, not mine.

Learn from your mistakes, it's your fault not theirs.

Thank you, that is the point I am trying to make. I already sent an appeal, I am not asking for that.
I am just pointing out that the GM's do not care, they will ban you as an example. I have never played a private server or emulator with GM's that are so strict. Most are GM's for fun because this is what they wanted to do, and they love the players on their servers. The GM's on this server are like Blizzard GM's. Faceless with an Iron fist, and often with terrible grammar and broken english.

Good luck, it was buggy and laggy at times but fun.

Not fun enough to do it over again though.

It's worth noting that right at vanilla release, fishing had a bugged drop rate and was extremely lucrative. Rather than ban the thousands of players who fished up some nice items and made gold, Blizzard just patched instead it about 5 hours later.

Lol you got banned for cheating

Typical victim conplex....blaming everyone else but himself. You knew breaking the rules would get you banned, and you do it anyway and now its the servers fault but never your own. Dont you see a problem with that?

Is it really so hard to just not break the rules? It is so fucking simple.... Dont exploiy bugs (like getting an abnornal amt of gold in an area where you shouldnt). You took the risk to get the gold, so accept the responsibility. Dont shit ovet every single GM because you took the risk of breaking the rules and now youre facing the consequences

The only part Id agree is permabans are given out a bit too leniently. Like when ICC was exploited, Blizz (correct me if Im wrong) gave a small temporary ban, and took their gear and achirvements.

Edit: and why should they warn you? You clearly knew you were exploiting ... The logic of some people FFS

Lorilay wrote:It's worth noting that right at vanilla release, fishing had a bugged drop rate and was extremely lucrative. Rather than ban the thousands of players who fished up some nice items and made gold, Blizzard just patched instead it about 5 hours later.

Any proof of this?

I never fished in vanilla so I am unclear about this, I guess they don't have the time to patch it and instead just ban everyone who finds out about the spot?

Coding3347 wrote:
The only part Id agree is permabans are given out a bit too leniently. Like when ICC was exploited, Blizz (correct me if Im wrong) gave a small temporary ban, and took their gear and achirvements.

You are saying that blizz should perm - ban them? this is a game, not a job with responsibilities. If people find an easier way to do something of course they will do it.

If you are saying they are too trigger happy then you are contradicting your prior statement, but still adding validity to my claim.

strangebud wrote:I guess they don't have the time to patch it and instead just ban everyone who finds out about the spot?

Pretty much. If you find a bug, don't exploit it. Move on. Let the next person who finds the bug (and exploits it) get banned. Not yourself.

Even if you didn't spend a single copper from the bug, you still abused it for your own means. You're still responsible for your actions. If a thief stole a $300 necklace and kept it to himself, he still stole the necklace. Maybe he'll sell it to a pawn shop later on? Nobody knows.

Aunstic wrote:

strangebud wrote:I guess they don't have the time to patch it and instead just ban everyone who finds out about the spot?

Pretty much. If you find a bug, don't exploit it. Move on. Let the next person who finds the bug (and exploits it) get banned. Not yourself.

Even if you didn't spend a single copper from the bug, you still abused it for your own means. You're still responsible for your actions. If a thief stole a $300 necklace and kept it to himself, he still stole the necklace. Maybe he'll sell it to a pawn shop later on? Nobody knows.

now I'm a theif? who did i steal from?

How about a better example: A paleontologist finds a honey hole for great excavation of historical artifacts on someone else's property, the owner of said property files charges against the offender. If the offender gives back the assets - the charges are almost always dropped. This is a real world example

Sounds like you exploited to get gold. no one to blame but yourself. I personally got perma banned for something similar that people did on retail. Just move on and relevel like everyone else.