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A different point of view?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:22 am
by mike1097
Hello Guys,

after reading the posts of the last days I just wanted to say my opinion to that topic. If you're not interested in that feel free to exit this topic.

I know there is another topic with this, but please dear players of nostalrius... keep in mind that everything here is free to play. This fact alone is awesome. How often were we pissed because of gamebreaking donation rewards, voting rewards etc. Nostalrius provides an unbelievable experience in this case.
If you think now that I am fanboy you're wrong. I'm following the project for around a year now and I had a critic view on this server. Not only this server, also the other servers around nostalrius.
So I have to confess, that there is a lack of communication between players and admins the last months.
But just because they are not talking to us as often as before the release, does not mean they don't work.
Everyday we feel the lag and blame the devs for that but we have to understand that we are just the players. What do you think how stressed nostalrius staff is during ddos or other problems. We just can quit and come back later without spending time into the server.
While we are blaming the server and the lagg the staff is working hard and invisible to fix the issues. And just because we can't see the work does not mean they don't do something. It's the opposite. The server is getting better every day.

So back to that I wanted to say.
We are the players and we are playing for the fun.
The devs have a reallife, family, job and hobbies AND nostalrius.
Just enjoy what we have. If not try to find a better server or quit the game.

I just wanted to post this to calm down the situation. Flame me if you want. I dont care.

Re: A different point of view?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:49 am
by Bazinga
mike1097 wrote:blablabla ... everything here is free to play. mememe ...

:lol:

mike1097 wrote:Flame me if you want. I dont care.

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Take your choice!

Re: A different point of view?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:52 am
by mike1097
Thanks for quoting the core of my post :D

Re: A different point of view?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:09 am
by sidesprang
Yes it's free and thats nice, this server has a lot of good things with it. But the point about it being free don't make it so that people can't voice their opinions and concerns regarding the server.

People would be way more understanding about the delays if there were more communication from the management.
People would be way less mad about GM decisions if they were more consistent.
People would be way less mad about decisions if it was possible to have a dialogue with them. I'm not saying that nost have to listen to every hackers story about his brother but a lot of stuff is in a grey area or not very clear.
etc
etc

Regardless as long as people is giving constructive criticism, and not just mindless flaming you and the admins should be thankful for those opinions regardless if you share their views or not. You should not flame back or come with "it's free so your opinion don't matter". Like 90% of the shitposts in the grizzly thread yesterday was from haters that did not even understand the point of the thread.

Re: A different point of view?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:17 am
by Shaarp
Sidesprang - don't get me wrong, but even the devs and Management have a real life and don't make anyhting from this Server... they do this for fun. Don't expect too much!!!

Everyone gets that you are mad because there are bugs in the game, but you all have to understand that this Server is made for fun and not for running a Business!! So give the devs and Management at break, and if you don't like this Server or the People that offer their free time to improve it, feel free to go to another Server!! No one Needs your, because there are a ton of other Players here that love the Server for how it is (like me)!!

greets

Re: A different point of view?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:19 pm
by ritjos71
the lack of understand that these "it's free to play" ranters have is frankly amazing. how about you guys can all keep being grateful that the server exists and never be critical in your magical land of unicorns and rainbows. A place where these private servers stay populated forever no matter what bugs and other problems they have. While people in the real world who actually care about the life and longevity of this server will continue to communicate and provide input that can be used for the betterment of everyone here.

When you keep telling people stuff like this your essentially telling people to shut up and that their input isn't necessary or wanted. It's painfully ignorant.

Re: A different point of view?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:49 pm
by Soyoen
Shaarp wrote:Everyone gets that you are mad because there are bugs in the game, but you all have to understand that this Server is made for fun and not for running a Business!!

Ingame bugs are irrelevant if they are being or are going to be addressed.

Shaarp wrote:So give the devs and Management at break, and if you don't like this Server or the People that offer their free time to improve it, feel free to go to another Server!!

I am pretty certain that the testers qualify in terms of offering their free time to improve the server. Hell, even during the leveling process alone everyone ahead of the curve was basicly an unpaid beta tester. There are individuals who care for the server and the population that plays on it, individuals who devote a large portion of their free time to make sure that the rest of the server can enjoy correct content releases and as bugfree content as possible.

Many of these individuals are to be found within the top guilds of the server, should they leave then content testing will be delayed or worse: not properly tested prerelease. At some point during the time you spend here you will eventually start looking into endgame content, and whether or not you like it you will need those players to make sure that your experience in said content isn't a complete disappointment.


sidesprang wrote:People would be way more understanding about the delays if there were more communication from the management.

Take the Feenix project or retail SoO as example: SoO had about a year of content gap and the outcry on their boards was immense, Feenix had little over a two year period between the release of BWL and AQ40. Players who sit on huge knowledge of the vanilla content have similar events in the back of their head and knows how frustrating it can be for the playerbase to experience something like that.

During my time on Feenix during the long wait we replaced around 330 members in our original guild during the first year, and god knows how many more in the second guild I joined for the second year. This may sound like a special snowflake case but the reality is that the individuals on the server need to cooperate in order to avoid delays like this to occur.

However, everyone can only do so much - but this does not mean that things pointed out are not valid and wont eventually affect those making counterclaims based upon nothing. The things that sidesprang and Grizzly amongst other have pointed out should be taken seriously; but from what I could see in the other threads the majority of the community seemed to be more interested in their own short term trolling, rather than the longlivity and quality of this project. This is not a personal insult to you as a reader, but if the most basic quality control methods triggers a shitfest then I don't want to know what occurs if simple TQM methods was to be adopted by the individuals behind the server.

Re: A different point of view?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:23 pm
by Souleàter
sidesprang wrote:Yes it's free and thats nice, this server has a lot of good things with it. But the point about it being free don't make it so that people can't voice their opinions and concerns regarding the server.

People would be way more understanding about the delays if there were more communication from the management.
People would be way less mad about GM decisions if they were more consistent.
People would be way less mad about decisions if it was possible to have a dialogue with them. I'm not saying that nost have to listen to every hackers story about his brother but a lot of stuff is in a grey area or not very clear.
etc
etc

Regardless as long as people is giving constructive criticism, and not just mindless flaming you and the admins should be thankful for those opinions regardless if you share their views or not. You should not flame back or come with "it's free so your opinion don't matter". Like 90% of the shitposts in the grizzly thread yesterday was from haters that did not even understand the point of the thread.

^^^