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Questline level requirements

PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:25 am
by Bit
At some point level requirements for all quests but the first in a questline were removed. I'm pretty sure it happened during vanilla but it may also have been early TBC. Anyone know which patch removed them?

Re: Questline level requirements

PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 2:36 pm
by dauwd
The requirement aren't removed in this patch. I wasn't able to accept a follow up with my character multiple times untill I was a few levels higher.

I don't know when this was removed tho..

Re: Questline level requirements

PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:47 pm
by gotmilk0112
Yeah, a lot of quests are annoyingly like that, with the follow-up quest requiring 1 or even 2 levels higher. Just another thing that makes me think, "WHAT THE FUCK WAS BLIZZARD THINKING!?"

Like "The Platinum Discs", you can get the quest at level 42, but the follow-up which is nothing more than a "go talk to this other npc and get your reward" quest, requires a higher level. Wtf, why?

Re: Questline level requirements

PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:24 pm
by Crysthal
Alot of those quests are bugged here.

I searched for the min level requirements because I could not believe I was still too low (Felwood chain requires 57 while mobs are way lower)

What I came across was that for several quests that are part of a chain the min level req is set to the actual max level set by the other vanilla databases.

For instance this quest from felwood: http://db.valkyrie-wow.org/?quest=5385

You are doing the pre quests all in your early 50s and then you cannot accept the LAST quest which qields the final reward until you are 57 even when the database says minimal required level is 49.


All those databases run patch 1.12 which isn't on nostalrius yet but I don't think those quests were that fucked up in vanilla. I remember doing this quest 10 years ago when I was in that zone. It was hard for me so I'm pretty sure I wasn't 57 yet.

Leveling another character right now - gonna report all those "buggy" quests in the bugtracker.

Re: Questline level requirements

PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 5:39 pm
by Aunstic
Crysthal wrote:Alot of those quests are bugged here.

I searched for the min level requirements because I could not believe I was still too low (Felwood chain requires 57 while mobs are way lower)

What I came across was that for several quests that are part of a chain the min level req is set to the actual max level set by the other vanilla databases.

For instance this quest from felwood: http://db.valkyrie-wow.org/?quest=5385

You are doing the pre quests all in your early 50s and then you cannot accept the LAST quest which qields the final reward until you are 57 even when the database says minimal required level is 49.

All those databases run patch 1.12 which isn't on nostalrius yet but I don't think those quests were that fucked up in vanilla. I remember doing this quest 10 years ago when I was in that zone. It was hard for me so I'm pretty sure I wasn't 57 yet.

Leveling another character right now - gonna report all those "buggy" quests in the bugtracker.

Patch 1.5 came out 7 June 2005. The quest should be attainable at 53 actually.
http://web.archive.org/web/200509212227 ... quest=5385

1.12.1 DB's:
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?quest=5385 shows lvl 55.
http://db.valkyrie-wow.org/?quest=5385 shows lvl 49.
https://www.wow-one.com/database/index.php?quest=5385 shows lvl 49.

So we have a bit of a problem here.

Patch 1.12.1 came out 22 August 2006 and the quest didn't change it's required level pre-TBC and post-TBC.
1.11.x: http://web.archive.org/web/200605100625 ... quest=5385
TBC: http://web.archive.org/web/200710260134 ... quest=5385

Not sure if we're able to trust DB's as much as we should unless they're timestamped.

Re: Questline level requirements

PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 6:03 pm
by Bit
I guess some requirements may be higher than they should be but that's not really what I was talking about. I meant that requirements were completely removed for subsequent quests in a chain so that you could get boosted through chains to get rewards far above your level which was used to get items like Glacial Stone, Deadskull Shield or the Stranglethorn Bow/Gun for twinks.

Re: Questline level requirements

PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:52 am
by Pottu
The big content patch that came during TBC, though I can't remember the number, which added a new quest hub in Dustwallow Marsh, also changed existing quests and mobs extensively. It wouldn't surprise me if many players remember the quests from their post-TBC status. A fair number of elite quests were toned down to normal, many mobs got a downgrade as well and level requirements were equalized or removed in chains, plus the amount of XP gained from pre-60 quests was slightly increased.

My point is that it's very difficult to reliable "remember" what quests requirements were like back in the day, unless you/we/anyone can find reliable sources. As Aunstic pointed out, the various databases made by other private servers are not necessarily 100% reliable either.

Re: Questline level requirements

PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 2:09 pm
by Crysthal
@pottu you are totally right - we have no secure information about those level requirements.

Most chains are fine it's been like 2-3 chains where I was confused because the last quest was just talking to somebody to fetch up your reward and I had to wait up to 5 level to accept the quest which was green after accepting.

But as I stated above I'll provide more information when I'm at those quests.

Keep up the great work not everybody is complaining - the people who like it won't come to the boards and post here because they are busy playing :)

Best regards