Nostalrius Begins - Quality wow vanilla realm (1.12)

recently, people are argueing custom, non-blizzlike features on a/their server still make it a blizzlike server more and more often, because blizzLIKE would only mean the servers goal is to be (a bit) like blizzards servers, but not entirely.

but is this true? and what does it actually mean?
isn't a blizzlike servers goal to create a perception for the players like what blizzards did back then, as close as possible? so everything that's custom and not serving this goal, makes a server be less/not blizzlike? thus, these servers are not really blizzlike servers, as they are (also) aiming for other goals, that have nothing to do with a blizzlike perception, like making it for the players more comfortable (higher rates, lower respecc costs, ...)? or are these still legitimately blizzlike servers, in your opinion, just on a lower level?

i don't want to know if you think if those custom changes are nice or not, but when does a server lose its "right" to call itself blizzlike - in your opinion? and what do you think about servers having very custom features, but are still calling and advertising themself as blizzlike? doesnt all this damage the term blizzlike, making it totally nugatory?

"Blizzlike" is one of those really vague terms that has no strict definition. Also note that the term is Blizz *LIKE*. It's LIKE blizzard servers, not a 100% carbon copy of blizzard servers. With the opposite being "funservers", that are full of custom content and insane exp/drop rates and such.

Absolutely no server is going to be 100% accurate to official servers. That has never, ever happened. EVERY server has bugs and glitches and things that aren't "blizzlike".

And honestly, I'd much prefer that the server have custom improvements over being "blizzlike". We have 1.12 talents even though it's 1.5, we have battlemasters even though those weren't added until 1.6, etc.

Furthermore, no blizzard server had 8k players online, so we definitely shouldn't be "blizzlike" for things like herb/ore spawn rates and quest item object spawns. You know, those quests where you just have to loot an object...but that object has like a 10 minute respawn timer. So much fun having to sit there and camp it while 5-10 other people are also sitting there ready to click it as soon as it spawns.

ill just repeat myself:
i know that no server will ever be 100% blizzlike, but its about the servers goal, trying to get as close as possible to it (perception-wise), isnt it?
its about the goal, trying to create such a perception, sending ppl back in time. but what if a server also aims for other goals (more comfort, ...)? still blizzlike? where does "blizzlike" end? dont realms damage the term blizzlike, if they are super far away from it, but still call/advertise themself as such? etc..

no need to discuss if any realm will ever be 100% blizzlike, it never will. its more about the goal a server aims for, trying or not trying it as good as it can.


i think nost is the most blizzlike server out there. one big thing thats not blizzlike about it is the too high population. however, this is something edgy, since they can not simply "fix" it, thus not really the staffs fault. but what about others, that claim to be blizzlike?

Holmes wrote: the servers goal, trying to get as close as possible to it (perception-wise), isnt it?

Where does the server say that it's trying to be as close to blizzard as possible? Because with battlemasters and 1.12 talents in 1.5, that's already way out the window.

As close as possible. It isn't possible to remove 1.12 talents because that's mostly client-side and they can't reasonably design an entirely new client.

gotmilk0112 wrote:

Holmes wrote: the servers goal, trying to get as close as possible to it (perception-wise), isnt it?

Where does the server say that it's trying to be as close to blizzard as possible?

you see the question mark? its what i understand under the term blizzlike.

gotmilk0112 wrote:Because with battlemasters and 1.12 talents in 1.5, that's already way out the window.

so if a server that hasnt BWL yet, but is having 1 single feature from later vanilla, blizzlike patches, its not blizzlike to you anymore?

would nost "fix" this, if possible? thus, would it be their goal, but they just cant reach it? or do they just not want those changes?
you simply seem to not understand what i just wrote and made bold regarding the term goal, still.....

i think nostalrius goal is to make the perception blizzlike, thats why i like it, but other server do not "strictly" aim for that goal. some are very far off. still calling them blizzlike. thats what i wanted the topic to be like. talk bad about other servers!

Holmes wrote:you see the question mark? its what i understand under the term blizzlike.

You keep throwing around the term "blizzlike blizzlike blizzlike", what exactly is your point? "BLIZZLIKE" is a vague term that has no real definition.

What is the point you're trying to prove here?

Holmes wrote:so if a server that hasnt BWL yet, but is having 1 single feature from later vanilla, blizzlike patches, its not blizzlike to you anymore?

"1 single feature" lol, 1.12 talents and battlemasters are just a couple examples. Another example is how level 50 class quests were in the game for a long while, despite not being added until I think 1.7 or 1.8.

My point is that you keep throwing around "blizzlike", but Nost is not trying to be 100% "blizzlike". And it is nowhere near 100% "blizzlike".

Holmes wrote:you simply seem to not understand what i just wrote and made bold regarding the term goal, still..........

You just keep parroting "Blizzlike", "server goal", "it's about the goal" like some kind of buzzwords. Not sure what there is to understand.

Holmes wrote:but when does a server lose its "right" to call itself blizzlike - in your opinion? and what do you think about servers having very custom features, but are still calling and advertising themself as blizzlike? doesnt all this damage the term blizzlike, making it totally nugatory?

Like I've said, the term "BLIZZLIKE" does not have any set definition.

Any server can call themselves "blizzlike" because the term "blizzlike" is open to interpretation. There is no rigid definition of what is and is not "blizzlike", when talking about a server as a whole.

So when you ask people "what is blizzlike", you're just going to get subjective opinions.