Baggenxd from the guild <HONORUS> ninja'd foror's

[FrozenBread]

Today I was farming DM:E in a group composed by me as a tank IGN: Plebiterator, a druid healer called baggenxd, and a mage helping with the dps called ripos. I was there trying to get my Satyr's Bow and, luckily, very fucking luckily, my Foror's Compendium of Dragon Slaying, which has a 0.2% dropchance on bosses and is BoE. (reference: http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=18401#. ).

Surprisingly, it did dropped, for the first time and most surely the only time in my life, and I was fucking happy, beucase I would love to get me my Quel'Serrar.

Then, this druid, who's not only a ninja, but also a liar, rolled need for it, saying that he needed it for his "main", a "prot warrior". And he did win the roll, and then he dc'd.

Fifteen minutes later I went to the AH, and oh, surprise, he was selling the book already!

Proof here: http://imgur.com/a/iVEzJ

Me, personally, I think that this kind of people is toxic, and he'll not ever get in a group with me or my guild. I very hope so that you do the same and punish this kind of attittude by not letting this kind of people play with you and probably ruin your experience too. As for the people in <HONORUS>, take in mind that this person doesn't think of others, this person only thinks in personal benefit, aside from lying, I bet that he didn't offer the book for any of your warriors, I see that you're a guild trying to progress with your raids and grow, but if you take people like baggenxd, you're going to get bad rep and problems, nothing more than that.

[varth]

If a ~300g boe drops in a group of pugs, it's not a ninja for people to roll on it. That 300g can go to plenty of things for the druid that will benefit him as much if not more than a mediocre tank sword.

[vinceyoung]

Yeah why is that the item somehow belongs to YOU when everyone can use the gold. If you want it so badly you can also buy it. The fact that you might never see it drop again doesn't matter because you can just buy it from the AH. If it was BOP i'd agree with you but then again if it was BOP the druid most likely wouldn't roll on it either.

[zzxx]

Thank you for this information, he has been added to my notebook of players to never group with.

[FrozenBread]

If a ~300g boe drops in a group of pugs, it's not a ninja for people to roll on it. That 300g can go to plenty of things for the druid that will benefit him as much if not more than a mediocre tank sword.

Yeah why is that the item somehow belongs to YOU when everyone can use the gold. If you want it so badly you can also buy it. The fact that you might never see it drop again doesn't matter because you can just buy it from the AH. If it was BOP i'd agree with you but then again if it was BOP the druid most likely wouldn't roll on it either.

Okay guys, I don't wanna make you feel bad but I think you missed a small detail on wow's group loot system.

There is 2 buttons: Need and Greed.
If you Need one item, and you're going to use it, you click on Need.
If you want to have economical benefits out of an item, such as selling it on the AH if there's demand, or simply vendoring it, you Greed it, because simply there's people that Need it.

Hope that you've learned something today, have a good one.

[Bananaman]

Hey Bro your not even prot
http://realmplayers.com/CharacterViewer ... ebiterator

the druid could most likly use that gold more then you can have a offspec sword

[Levinas]

I like the turds defending this. Must be the old "but I need the gold"-excuse.

Thanks for letting us know about this sad individual.

[Frontedge]

Good day.

I was contacted by Plebiterator beforehand with this topic and I did a bit of research as I do like to hear out both sides of the argument.

First of all after speaking with Plebiterator, I have spoken with our Trial member Baggenxd regarding the accusation.

Baggenxd told me that Plebiterator was tanking in Fury specc as it appears in both his screenshots as with bare minimum of tank gear you would have above 4k Hp.

Secondly if we take a look at

http://realmplayers.com/CharacterViewer.aspx?realm=NRB&player=Plebiterator

We can see that 95% of gear is Fury/Dps gear, including recent acquiring of Obsidian Edged Blade

http://www.wow-one.com/database/?item=18822-0

While I do acknowledge there are couple of "tankish" items, he looks anything but a Tank to me with the current gear.

Secondly we can see the group consists of 3 people on an obvious "farming" run. Usually farming runs include reservations and/or certain agreements. If there was none made, we can only assume it was a pug run.

Based on the above I see absolutely zero reasons why Baggenxd would not be allowed to Roll on the item, as the way it appears they both have equal terms and the higher roller has won.
I am more then certain the item would have ended up on AH if Plebiterator would have won it, as he does not look like a tank to me one bit.

Once again I am in no way protecting Ninjaing as I am always all for a fair play, however based on my above argument and my analysis of the information I have, I do not see a specific "ninjaing" being involved.

I would gladly change my mind regarding our Trial member Baggenxd if more facts can be provided, as in no way Honorus community supports ninjas. But I also would like to hear out Baggenxd in this topic.

With respect,
Frontedge.

[FrozenBread]

Good day.

I was contacted by Plebiterator beforehand with this topic and I did a bit of research as I do like to hear out both sides of the argument.

First of all after speaking with Plebiterator, I have spoken with our Trial member Baggenxd regarding the accusation.

Baggenxd told me that Plebiterator was tanking in Fury specc as it appears in both his screenshots as with bare minimum of tank gear you would have above 4k Hp.

Secondly if we take a look at

http://realmplayers.com/CharacterViewer.aspx?realm=NRB&player=Plebiterator

We can see that 95% of gear is Fury/Dps gear, including recent acquiring of Obsidian Edged Blade

http://www.wow-one.com/database/?item=18822-0

While I do acknowledge there are couple of "tankish" items, he looks anything but a Tank to me with the current gear.

Secondly we can see the group consists of 3 people on an obvious "farming" run. Usually farming runs include reservations and/or certain agreements. If there was none made, we can only assume it was a pug run.

Based on the above I see absolutely zero reasons why Baggenxd would not be allowed to Roll on the item, as the way it appears they both have equal terms and the higher roller has won.
I am more then certain the item would have ended up on AH if Plebiterator would have won it, as he does not look like a tank to me one bit.

Once again I am in no way protecting Ninjaing as I am always all for a fair play, however based on my above argument and my analysis of the information I have, I do not see a specific "ninjaing" being involved.

I would gladly change my mind regarding our Trial member Baggenxd if more facts can be provided, as in no way Honorus community supports ninjas. But I also would like to hear out Baggenxd in this topic.

With respect,
Frontedge.

Okay, okay, okay, so you say that he has the right to roll on it because I had no tanking gear on.
Man, as you yourself said, we were farming the instance, when you farm, you wanna go fast. I won't go fast with my tanking gear on, I can tank it with dps gear, as I did, that boss died because I was tanking it. I already linked you my tanking gear ingame so you know that I am not only a dps focused player. I form part of a very dedicated small guild that is starting it's progression soon, and being a small guild means that a lot of times, I'll be drafted as offtank or maybe even main tank. And I NEED to be prepared for that.
Your trial member, in it's intent of getting 475 filthy gold, is actually ninjaing gear I needed.
If you can't understand that, you're a shame for our class. Have a good day sir.

[vinceyoung]

If a ~300g boe drops in a group of pugs, it's not a ninja for people to roll on it. That 300g can go to plenty of things for the druid that will benefit him as much if not more than a mediocre tank sword.

Yeah why is that the item somehow belongs to YOU when everyone can use the gold. If you want it so badly you can also buy it. The fact that you might never see it drop again doesn't matter because you can just buy it from the AH. If it was BOP i'd agree with you but then again if it was BOP the druid most likely wouldn't roll on it either.

Okay guys, I don't wanna make you feel bad but I think you missed a small detail on wow's group loot system.

There is 2 buttons: Need and Greed.
If you Need one item, and you're going to use it, you click on Need.
If you want to have economical benefits out of an item, such as selling it on the AH if there's demand, or simply vendoring it, you Greed it, because simply there's people that Need it.

Hope that you've learned something today, have a good one.

Sorry I don't conform to your set of rules. Maybe you can just farm the gold if you really want the item otherwise I suggest you just move on with your life.