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Wpvp in lvling zones

PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:32 pm
by kajzerbeli
well i notice many player here on both side lvl 60 etc camping low lvl player with 20 or more lvl diference , i have advice for for admins here in server to improve make em beter for all ppl
I found the box to my WoW battle chest and was reading the WoW game manual. Page 134 describes "dishonorable kills":

Dishonor Points

Even among enemies as bitter as the Horde and the Alliance, there is honor. If you flaunt this honor and engage in objectionable PvP play, such as killing new players vastly inferior to you in level, or killing essential non-combat NPCs such as flight masters or quest givers, you will earn dishonor. If you accumulate enough dishonor through your criminal actions, you will be branded an outlaw. As a consequence, you'll suffer experience penalties, lose access to your own faction cities, and become so hated even by your own kind that every faction NPC will attack you on sight.

Recovering Dishonor

World of Warcraft is forgiving of transgressions, and if you refrain from dishonorable actions for a long enough time, you will eventually return to favor with your faction and cast off your criminal label

It seems like a good system at heart, designed to prevent griefing of lowbies in general and to prevent people from killing essential non-combat NPCs for fun and/or grief others. In short that system (from the looks of it) basically means "go fight guards and/or players that are at your own level".

Re: Wpvp in lvling zones

PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:40 pm
by Iltháes

Re: Wpvp in lvling zones

PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:24 am
by NikeTheSword
kajzerbeli wrote:you will be branded an outlaw. As a consequence, you'll suffer experience penalties, lose access to your own faction cities, and become so hated even by your own kind that every faction NPC will attack you on sight.


I would actually like this. Would put a nice spin on things being able to kill your own faction too.

Re: Wpvp in lvling zones

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:39 am
by kajzerbeli
Iltháes wrote:No https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-K7fCQlUhj0
Go to the PvE realm.

and yes for all mentaly problematic ppl if you told me i m not right , what you have when you lvl 60 kill lvl 20 etc what is goal here ))
you only doing all that because admins here not set rule
or when lvl 60 warlock put infernal on lvl 10 area etc also no brainer (cheer

Re: Wpvp in lvling zones

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:54 pm
by CrackBaker
PvP server.

Re: Wpvp in lvling zones

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:14 pm
by corpsen
kajzerbeli wrote:well i notice many player here on both side lvl 60 etc camping low lvl player with 20 or more lvl diference , i have advice for for admins here in server to improve make em beter for all ppl
I found the box to my WoW battle chest and was reading the WoW game manual. Page 134 describes "dishonorable kills":

Dishonor Points

Even among enemies as bitter as the Horde and the Alliance, there is honor. If you flaunt this honor and engage in objectionable PvP play, such as killing new players vastly inferior to you in level, or killing essential non-combat NPCs such as flight masters or quest givers, you will earn dishonor. If you accumulate enough dishonor through your criminal actions, you will be branded an outlaw. As a consequence, you'll suffer experience penalties, lose access to your own faction cities, and become so hated even by your own kind that every faction NPC will attack you on sight.

Recovering Dishonor

World of Warcraft is forgiving of transgressions, and if you refrain from dishonorable actions for a long enough time, you will eventually return to favor with your faction and cast off your criminal label

It seems like a good system at heart, designed to prevent griefing of lowbies in general and to prevent people from killing essential non-combat NPCs for fun and/or grief others. In short that system (from the looks of it) basically means "go fight guards and/or players that are at your own level".


Agree, those 60 lvl ''heroes'' killing only low levels. Horde is pro in this... Dishonorable kills is the right way.

Re: Wpvp in lvling zones

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:21 pm
by NikeTheSword
It still won't stop people from griefing because the penalty only affects rankers, not gankers.

Re: Wpvp in lvling zones

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:54 pm
by Crossbreed
NikeTheSword wrote:It still won't stop people from griefing because the penalty only affects rankers, not gankers.


Not being able to enter main citys certainly would have a significant effect.
In fact, anything that is a disadvantage for raiding would probably be quite a factor.

I'd very much support the above suggestion. Ganking is a bit out of control on Nost; I've been leveling 3 chars to 60 and another 3 to >50 during classic, all of which on PVP Servers. The situation wasn't nearly as bad as on Nost to be honest.
No surprise though, the population is something like 4 times as big as on an original classic servers, so a LOT more poeple roaming around zones ganking. Combine that with a somewhat more hardcore community, many of which have cleared raids etc. already, and you get what we have today - a server where many zones are rendered virtually unplayable by lowbies for hours, if not days.

Re: Wpvp in lvling zones

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:00 pm
by zzxx
Crossbreed wrote: many zones are rendered virtually unplayable by lowbies for hours, if not days.

yeaaaaaaaa OK

Re: Wpvp in lvling zones

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:21 pm
by atheimetal
corpsen wrote:Agree, those 60 lvl ''heroes'' killing only low levels. Horde is pro in this... Dishonorable kills is the right way.


I have characters on both factions, one is not kinder than the other in my experience so far. Both have plenty of dicks and you'll be getting mowed down by bored 60s either way.