For those wondering about the NOPE, Coalition situation

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For those wondering about the NOPE, Coalition situation

by Junkerd » Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:56 pm

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According to Pottu, making a post about Silithus miners in a thread about unfair bans is spam.

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Re: For those wondering about the NOPE, Coalition situation

by Thebrother » Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:08 pm

Bots are a go!! GM approved!!!
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Re: For those wondering about the NOPE, Coalition situation

by H0llowP0int » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:04 pm

What a joke
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Re: For those wondering about the NOPE, Coalition situation

by Pottu » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:27 pm

Thebrother, if you actually read the message, you would have seen that the addon in itself is not considered botting. If you combine it with something else that keeps a character online, then you will be banned for it.

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Re: For those wondering about the NOPE, Coalition situation

by Ieafa19 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:00 pm

Rip

The top guilds get to do whatever they want - got it.
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Re: For those wondering about the NOPE, Coalition situation

by Requake » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:16 pm

The top guilds also don't shower.

That is your decision. Shower/sleep or world boss loot.
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Re: For those wondering about the NOPE, Coalition situation

by Datruth » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:38 pm

Pottu wrote:Thebrother, if you actually read the message, you would have seen that the addon in itself is not considered botting. If you combine it with something else that keeps a character online, then you will be banned for it.

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Source: https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=31901&p=222883#p222883
Great consistency as always!

And let's not forget the 2 ban appeals from 2 of the scouts who were banned for botting, one of them even admitted to multiboxing before editing all of his posts.
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=20640
https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=20653

Can we stop beating around the bush and get an official statement on which rules we play by, and why the only punishment recieved was bans on lvl1 chars (lol).
Instead of these mixed messages and brushing it off by labelling it as "Conspiracy theories" when this clearly is more than just baseless theories?

I appreciate the work being put in, but all of this tippy toeing around the subject is shady, especially when you consider the fact that one of the guilds have at least one GM in their guild.
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Re: For those wondering about the NOPE, Coalition situation

by Qwadezor » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:41 pm

Pottu wrote:Thebrother, if you actually read the message, you would have seen that the addon in itself is not considered botting. If you combine it with something else that keeps a character online, then you will be banned for it.

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So the Addon they're using does not keep the character online itself, and they would have to manually move once every 5-10 mins? Which you are then implying they are with your first announcement?
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Re: For those wondering about the NOPE, Coalition situation

by Pottu » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:53 pm

That private message from Daemon is all the way back from November 9th, last year. It was discussing the initial issue of lvl 1 characters in Azshara, some of which were bots and got banned as the two appeals you linked to confirm. Daemon also confirmed that botting and multiboxing do get their usual punishments.

We have reviewed this addon in question and, just like Tyrael said in the initial post, it in itself is not illegal. I do not see any lack of consistency here.


Qwadezor wrote:So the Addon they're using does not keep the character online itself, and they would have to manually move once every 5-10 mins?

Yes, exactly as I said before. I am not implying anything more or less.

If you suspect a character of being multiboxed and/or botted, please let us know so we can investigate further.

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Re: For those wondering about the NOPE, Coalition situation

by Datruth » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:55 pm

First statement clearly says the addon isn't allowed.
Second statement say it is allowed.
How is that not a lack of consistency? No official statement was made on this change of policies after multiple players got caught redhanded.

And what stops someone from botting and multiboxing WITH that addon, when the only saction being applied is a ban on the lvl1 char? It's literally only 2 minutes lost.
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