Nostalrius Begins - Quality wow vanilla realm (1.12)

Casieqt wrote:Hello Xantii, its me Yoda.
It is forbidden to host gdkp not. This system allready some pug's using. Be salty about lootsystem from pug's, do not. Have a nice day!

Xantii wrote:The problem i saw is soo many ppl cry about the Gdkp (im to) and say taht was the biggest shit on feenix. but now its coms back. sins this server grows to exatly teh same like feenix. and a other problem what i keep in my mind is with the gdkp runs u support the goldseller.......
4real that can not be. The admins have to talk about it.

Thefilth wrote:

Xantii wrote:The problem i saw is soo many ppl cry about the Gdkp (im to) and say taht was the biggest shit on feenix. but now its coms back. sins this server grows to exatly teh same like feenix. and a other problem what i keep in my mind is with the gdkp runs u support the goldseller.......
4real that can not be. The admins have to talk about it.

Hang on. As far as I understand, most GDKP runs split the pool gold at the end. Isn't that normal way?

Xantii wrote:with the gdkp runs u support the goldseller.......
4real that can not be. The admins have to talk about it.

If i was able to post screenshots and videos of what has become other server from this GDKP you would see how horrible the system is . (Sorry for replying again i didn't meant to).
If it was about "2-3" times to be created by few people ok but this will spread like virus plague and all this shiny purple illusions will disappear. When things get deeply inside GDKP there is no turning back but disaster.

- Just get over it , Raid "Soulbound" Gear is made to be for Free after successful kill. -

Why would High End Guilds don't farm MC or BWL for their remaining Gear ?
Why would i waste 100 or 1000 Gold for some epic?
Why would i show 1000 Gold if i am undergeared in order to get in Raid?
Why would i eat Gold Ban if i make 1 mistake during Raid?
Why would i Pug when i can enjoy progressing with casual Raid Guild ?
Why would i buy Offspec Gear when someone need it as Mainspec?
Why would Leader take 5% Fee from whole pot?
Why would we allow Gold Sellers and Scammers play their Role more efficient by Scamming 40 people Gold?

Many questions , sad answers. (i have lot more to ask)
how would you deal with this issues?

Alright seems the same propaganda here like in p...x.

Let me enlighten you what will happen :

1.Crafting Gear from Professions will Devalue to 0 point (useless) .

2.With that crafting Gear all this "mining,skinning,tailoring" . Goes down too (with minor exception of Tailoring).

3.World Drops will Devalue to 0 point (useless).

4.Consumes will start skyrock with price since farmers will get reduced. (people will 90% choose to farm gold from GDKP)

5.Preraid requirement would slowly become a Gold requirement. (we don't care about gear,show your gold).

6.Other Alternative to GDKP will be wiped out and it will remain only system.

7.Items will become Expensive so People would have to farm Gold for Gear instead Gold for Consumes.

8.Scammers would be all around , some leaders will also scam 5% from each pot legally "which could go high number".

9.There is no real Evidence of what will happen (gold trade or mailbox) since it would affect 40 People.

10.Leaders will request "example" : show 10 000 gold if you want to join us. (this was example).

11.People will become Solo and the attitude will get changed to more toxic instead team spirit depend. (lfr blizzard way).

12.Leaders of Pugs are Allowed to "Goldban" people for minor mistake or anytime he wish for if he feel and this is making him profit from that person more.

13.People would stop worry about fun and progressing , they would all "gold,gold,gold".

14.Low Geared People will never be allowed to step in Raid except gold showing. (this make that people leave server).

15.Some Rich "Green Geared" will do High End Raid and get this Gear immediate and fast while 100 others wont be able to step in High End.

16. All Casual and Progressive Guilds Risk getting Wiped out completely and only "Hardcore" will Remain.


- Keep in Note all this happen before in F....x - and i already have that experience .
- Only one who benefit from GDKP are Fully High End Geared by the cost of 90% of overall Population.
- Everyone else Risk leaving Server because of the mention Reasons once there is a choice to do.

There is a reason for this :

1.Many people can't fit in the complex of counting , working proper while leading the raid and doing the "gold calculations/distribution" (i tak overall view) include here also scammers that will scam 40 people gold instead "one pity item".

2.Only few people who understand perfect this system will be able to do raids.

3.There will be opening of "ninja people or trustful/untrustful leaders bad/good leaders" list which unlikely for some mistake many will fill inside this list and will cause only these few people able to lead instead everyone.

4.There will be no alternative to this GDKP since everyone will choose to do it and those people who are unable to fit in the complexity of the system won't be able to lead raids or pugs.

5. It make sense why remaining 90%, its because people will always choose to join "trustful" GDKP leaders by high end guilds only and high end geared only .

6. Meanwhile progressive guilds/casual guilds will go down and this will leave only "hardcore high end" and this is connection among number 5. (there will not be lot more choice) .

7. Why shall we turn this server in PUG's run instead Guild's runs?.

8.I would given you whole situation what has happened before and experience about it with evidences but i am afraid i can't do that because it will end up "server advertisement" . (need approval by Admins to post screenshots with examples).

9.It will destroy server and i am 100% positive in that and this will cost 1-2 years amount of time so please don't (saying from personal experience) .

10.High End people can always switch to level new alternative character when they clear everything and there is no real reason to see them "farming gold" beside "selling that gold" when they got full bis gear.

11. New people in server will not be able to fit in this system because they will need to farm tons of gold in order to join raid or get at least few pieces of gear.

12.Meanwhile Gold is split but New Players still waste gold on gear and consumes while High End gear keep their Gold because they wont even need to use consumes . (this will cause strong damage to economy inbalance). (few people will become enormous rich while everyone will remain on the bottom).

- Anyway i agree with your idea , let make "new nostalrius" server with all contents available and go see the experiment then tell me how many points i have said will become realistic within 6-8 months - .

Adwena wrote:

Xantii wrote:with the gdkp runs u support the goldseller.......
4real that can not be. The admins have to talk about it.

How exactly you support the goldsellers that way? Most of them are Asians you think any of them is capable of hosting a 40 man raid , lead it and do the calls and strategies? Come on lets be realistic