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SafeSpotting - Please don't troll - Open Discussion.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:43 pm
by joormom
So recently I was told that in 2005 Blizzard would of allowed safespotting, and that proof should be provided to show that it would otherwise not be allowed.

Now the only "Proof" I could find, would be my reference to their generalized policy, maybe making it subjective to the current responding GMs opinion on the matter.
These are the posted "Rules related to the game" out of the world of warcraft ToS

(i) Using or exploiting errors in design, features which have not been documented, and/or "program bugs" to gain access that is otherwise not available, or to obtain a competitive advantage over other players;

(ii) Conduct prohibited by the EULA or elsewhere in these Terms of Use; and

(iii) Anything that Blizzard considers contrary to the "essence" of the Game.


I'd like an open discussion on what you guys have an opinion on for this. Thank you.

So far the best we have for "Proof" that is against the rules is as follows:
ubject: Clarification on Rooftop Camping
There has been some confusion in regards to whether or not the act of "rooftop camping", or killing players while using geometry to avoid the town guards, is allowed. We will no longer condone this act in game. Players who participate in this method of PvP will be given a warning and educated on this new policy, and further action will be taken as circumstances warrant. We wish to provide a fair playing field to our customers, and this abuse of game mechanics has been hampering that effort.

Thank you for your understanding in this matter.
- Caydiem -
Assistant Community Manager

If you have contrary evidence, Feel free to post, and again please refrain from just trolling eachother, I'd like this to be an open discussion, not an argument.

Re: SafeSpotting

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:14 am
by joormom
Why is this buried?

Re: SafeSpotting

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:47 am
by Raazi
Currently all GMs respond to rooftop PvP / Mast PvP safespotting in GGZ/BB respectively the same way: It's allowed, as it was in retail vanilla. If anyone finds info to the contrary, post it in this thread.

Regards

Raazi
GM Leader

Re: SafeSpotting

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:05 am
by OGTUCKER117
Raazi wrote:Currently all GMs respond to rooftop PvP / Mast PvP safespotting in GGZ/BB respectively the same way: It's allowed, as it was in retail vanilla. If anyone finds info to the contrary, post it in this thread.

Regards

Raazi
GM Leader

thanks for the post, it should be allowed.
i remember doing it in retail and having it happen to me.
its part of the game

Re: SafeSpotting

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:25 am
by Redcap
A blizzard GM and representative named Caydiem put out the official word on rooftop camping and exploiting geometry to avoid guards as of 04/01/2005.

http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-general/2336291.htm

Meanwhile, Nostalrius claims it's currently working on the 1.4 patch timeline for the server. Which was released in 05/2005.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_1.4.0

That took me all of 1 minute to look up using the DuckDuckGo search engine. Does anyone even make an effort around here at all?

Re: SafeSpotting

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:27 am
by OGTUCKER117
Redcap wrote:A blizzard GM and representative named Caydiem put out the official word on rooftop camping and exploiting geometry to avoid guards as of 04/01/2005.

http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-general/2336291.htm

Meanwhile, Nostalrius claims it's currently working on the 1.4 patch timeline for the server. Which was released in 05/2005.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_1.4.0

That took me all of 1 minute to look up using the DuckDuckGo search engine. Does anyone even make an effort around here at all?

i did this in retail and had it happen to me and never got in any trouble.
do you hate fun?

Re: SafeSpotting

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:31 am
by JimboPete
Why do you guys hate fun around here?

It's so cool when I log in bathing in fire through the roof in tanaris while the paladin consecrates and doesn't aggro the guards who for whatever reason kill me when I attack him.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeee

Re: SafeSpotting

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:31 am
by Redcap
Razzi requested some extremely basic information that was simple to find, and I provided it. Nothing more, nothing less.

Go bother someone else in a different thread, Ogtucker. The adults are talking here.

Edit - interesting. the Caydiem announcement predates an additional announcement on the matter dated 2006.

source - http://www.techhive.com/article/250246/ ... loits.html

quote - http://www.wowwiki.com/Camp#Rooftop_camping

patch Timeline - http://www.wowwiki.com/Timeline_%28World_of_Warcraft%29

Eyonix made this statement after patch 1.12.0, but several months before Burning Crusade release.

There's two ways to go, it seems. Nostalrius could honor the original Caydiem statement and suspend player accounts caught for rooftop camping, or they could rely upon the Eyonix statement once Nostalrius reaches that point in the timeline.

No sweat off my nose either way.

Re: SafeSpotting

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:21 am
by DrunkenEnvy
I spent days camping roofs on retail and nothing happened ever.

EDIT** your proof is from April Fools day

Re: SafeSpotting

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:33 am
by OGTUCKER117
DrunkenEnvy wrote:I spent days camping roofs on retail and nothing happened ever.