Nostalrius Begins - Quality wow vanilla realm (1.12)

I know some of you are angry about certain elements of the World PvP being unfair and people acting like total psychopaths ect ect..

This may all seem horrible, and you would love for it all to go away with a PvE server or permanent PvE setting, but trust me, that would be THE WORST thing ever!

Though Vanilla WoW is fun and there is a huge sense of struggle and achievement, it has it's limits, despite being Vanilla, it's still at it's core a Theme Park MMORPG, World PvP adds a wonderful Sandbox element to the game, an element that makes the game that much more real and enjoyable!

You don't fear a mob the same way you fear a human, and you certainly do not feel not even close the same sense of vengeance against a mob that kills you, than you do against a human that kills you, not to mention all the emergent gameplay that can come from World PvP, something that would almost never happen in a dungeon/raid.

An example: me and this warrior were farming a spot (we are opposite factions) we didn't attack each other, but what we however did do, is kill anyone else who came there, the people who came there (either factions) were lured by a false sense of safety and a few messages (lies ^ ^) thinking that it would be a 2 on 1 deal, they were wrong and dead, leaving all the mobs to us

Again, I understand that it may seem totally unfair at times, but trust me, the benefits outweigh the negatives a 1000 times over!

And if you still feel angry, I made a little meme to remind you of the alternatives..

Ahhhh. You are telling people that don't like what you like, that they'd like it more if they just liked what you like. Giving an extreme example of how much fun you find the worst type of behavior to these folks is hardly a selling point for them.

Diametra wrote:Ahhhh. You are telling people that don't like what you like, that they'd like it more if they just liked what you like. Giving an extreme example of how much fun you find the worst type of behavior to these folks is hardly a selling point for them.

If you don't like pvp why are you on a pvp server? kek

Diametra wrote:Ahhhh. You are telling people that don't like what you like, that they'd like it more if they just liked what you like. Giving an extreme example of how much fun you find the worst type of behavior to these folks is hardly a selling point for them.

I think you might have misread my post, I start of by pointing out the negative aspects of World PvP, it's hardly that I'm straight off telling people to like what I like?

What I'm however saying is that though World PvP has some negative aspects to it, the benefits outweigh the negatives of it, making the game (if you look at the big picture) a more real and fun experience, I'm not denying that there are negatives.

As for the example I gave, that example is more about emergent gameplay in an MMORPG that has World PvP, and technically, in the example, you have 2 members of opposite factions working together for each others benefit, a positive story if I ever heard one

And it's certainly a far cry from negative aspects of World PvP, like people being camped for several hours ect.. ^ ^

Isn't it fair to say, that vanilla servers tend to be PvP because if it were progression based, folks would burn through content and then find something else?

Personally, I couldn't care less for PvP. My take was, that is a necessity for some amount a longevity on a server. That being the case...I watch people do what they do and I am totally unaffected by it. When they kill my character I don't care and carry no desire for vengeance. I see them as little, necessary impediments...much like climbing up a hill and discovering I have taken the wrong path, retreating, and finding the correct path.

I see the little pettiness and obnoxious behavior as I would any other purpose built impediment. Humanless, faceless, and not worthy of a second of my time.

That being said, I do enjoy PvP focused around invasions of towns and the defense thereof. That has more of a feel of the game world to me: an objective and a cause. I also feel compelled to help someone being teamed up on although I am not good at it. I also feel compelled to help the opposing faction when someone is caught in a bad spot. And I'm sure there's lots of horde that recognize Ellipsea and wonder what the hell she is doing helping them.

My Ellipsea is a healer and rightly so. That's what she does and that feels right to me.

Its fine let the PvE shitters complain who cares there not going to change this to a PvE server for a small minority and plus it might actually kill the server if it went PvE lol.
So just add anybody that complains about PvP to a list and camp them until they log.

Diametra wrote:Isn't it fair to say, that vanilla servers tend to be PvP because if it were progression based, folks would burn through content and then find something else?

Personally, I couldn't care less for PvP. My take was, that is a necessity for some amount a longevity on a server. That being the case...I watch people do what they do and I am totally unaffected by it. When they kill my character I don't care and carry no desire for vengeance. I see them as little, necessary impediments...much like climbing up a hill and discovering I have taken the wrong path, retreating, and finding the correct path.

I see the little pettiness and obnoxious behavior as I would any other purpose built impediment. Humanless, faceless, and not worthy of a second of my time.

That being said, I do enjoy PvP focused around invasions of towns and the defense thereof. That has more of a feel of the game world to me: an objective and a cause. I also feel compelled to help someone being teamed up on although I am not good at it. I also feel compelled to help the opposing faction when someone is caught in a bad spot. And I'm sure there's lots of horde that recognize Ellipsea and wonder what the hell she is doing helping them.

My Ellipsea is a healer and rightly so. That's what she does and that feels right to me.

Well that's true, but I think they also tend to be PvP so that ppl can have the complete experience, since more than often there aren't several server types to choose from.

And yes, some of the behavior is quite petty and obnoxious ect.. or as I put it "people acting like total psychopaths" :p

But this just gives more motivation for a good fight

But we do agree that it is a challenge to overcome, I guess I'm more inclined to get vengeance, though it's mostly a points scoring/fun thing for me (since I do love PvP) I just love the overall sense of danger that really sharpens the senses ^ ^

I agree with you 110% about the PvP focused around invasions of towns and the defense thereof, that's most fun for me as well

And I do tend to help people who are being teamed up on (apart from when I was grinding stuff with that warrior ^ ^; ) Same as with when a member of the opposing faction is in trouble

OGTUCKER117 wrote:Its fine let the PvE shitters complain who cares there not going to change this to a PvE server for a small minority and plus it might actually kill the server if it went PvE lol.
So just add anybody that complains about PvP to a list and camp them until they log.

PvE Shitters reply to OG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_qKAzxT6bg

MadAxeThrower wrote:PvE Shitters reply to OG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_qKAzxT6bg

MadAxeThrower wrote:PvE Shitters reply to OG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_qKAzxT6bg

I ALMOST believed you were an intelligent person. Regardless, there is an option for vanilla players who just want pve, but that realm (that shall not be named here) has a very small population. No one has the balls to move, so to be honest, it's really their own fault.

And yes, I do play there. Suck it.