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Cloak of Flames

PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:52 pm
by drfrozen
Hello!I looted an item called Cloak of Flames(lvl 60 boe).At start i thought this is a trash item,but allakhazam+wowhead comments + some people told me that the 5 fire dmg on attack scales with->>> SPELL DAMAGE IN A 1:1 RATIO <<<<------ That means if some1 has this cloak and 300 spell dmg it would do 305 dmg on each attacker!Crazy right?So also i want to infrom its the rarest item in the game along with teebu's.So my price is 2000g.If u are interested on this item and want a rogue that attacks u in BRM to instantly die,PM me(Drfrozen) in the game!Also its in the AH right now,u can just buy it from there!

Re: Cloak of Flames

PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:14 pm
by Theloras
drfrozen wrote:Hello!I looted an item called Cloak of Flames(lvl 60 boe).At start i thought this is a trash item,but allakhazam+wowhead comments + some people told me that the 5 fire dmg on attack scales with->>> SPELL DAMAGE IN A 1:1 RATIO <<<<------ That means if some1 has this cloak and 300 spell dmg it would do 305 dmg on each attacker!Crazy right?So also i want to infrom its the rarest item in the game along with teebu's.So my price is 2000g.If u are interested on this item and want a rogue that attacks u in BRM to instantly die,PM me(Drfrozen) in the game!


No reflective dmg scaled with spell damage in Vanilla (i.e. Retribution Aura, Thorns, Fire Shield, Razor Gauntlets, Naglering, Essence of the Pure Flame, Drillborer Disk, Sulfuras)

If it does here then that's a bug.

Re: Cloak of Flames

PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:16 pm
by drfrozen
Well it's not a bug because that happened in retail too.So it shouldn't be fixed as this server is blizzlike....

Re: Cloak of Flames

PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:23 pm
by Theloras
drfrozen wrote:Well it's not a bug because that happened in retail too.So it shouldn't be fixed as this server is blizzlike....


you would need to show proof from actual retail vanilla (aka circa 2005/2006)

not something like this:

By Nandu (17,964 – 7·28·86) on 2009/09/05 (Patch 3.2.0)
Used to have a 1:1 Spellpower-to-damage ratio.

Good times...
http://www.wowhead.com/item=3475/cloak- ... s#comments

Likewise, the only Patch notes for the Cloak are this:

Patch changes
WoW Icon 16x16 Patch 1.2.0 (18-Dec-2004): Effect on Cloak of Flames has been reduced.
http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Cloak_of_Flames

Re: Cloak of Flames

PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:30 pm
by Theloras
PS Don't get me wrong, I would love it if reflective dmg scaled, but it would be beyond OP if it did :P

Re: Cloak of Flames

PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 7:45 pm
by varth
I'm 100% sure that cloak of flames scaled with spellpower in retail, there were a couple youtube video's that I watched a lot that involved using cloak of flames to farm tyrs hand. I'm having a hard time finding the video but I did find a post from 2006 referencing it

Wondering about my mage - Xame - 03-01-2006 12:57 AM


Bob the Beholder,Feb 28 2006, 04:00 PM Wrote:Stupider Mage Tricks is what the second PvE video is called.&nbsp; It is absolutely nuts.&nbsp; And he has a number of PvP videos, showing off just how 'defensive' frost spec is.&nbsp; (Which is to say that he three-shots people without Arcane Power.)


Stupider Mage Tricks is great except some of the fights are no longer possible the way he shows them. Blizzard has fixed the Cloak of Fire which was clearly an off the wall bug. It took all of your +dmg gear and created an aoe effect when the cloak was used giving the full gear bonus. This should be +25 fire dmg/5 sec for 15sec. Faxmonkey with the bug is getting ~+750 fire dmg/5 sec for 15 sec inside of an iceblock (trinketed up). I believe it was fixed in 1.9.

Re: Cloak of Flames

PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:42 pm
by Theloras
varth wrote:I'm 100% sure that cloak of flames scaled with spellpower in retail, there were a couple youtube video's that I watched a lot that involved using cloak of flames to farm tyrs hand. I'm having a hard time finding the video but I did find a post from 2006 referencing it

Wondering about my mage - Xame - 03-01-2006 12:57 AM


Bob the Beholder,Feb 28 2006, 04:00 PM Wrote:Stupider Mage Tricks is what the second PvE video is called.&nbsp; It is absolutely nuts.&nbsp; And he has a number of PvP videos, showing off just how 'defensive' frost spec is.&nbsp; (Which is to say that he three-shots people without Arcane Power.)


Stupider Mage Tricks is great except some of the fights are no longer possible the way he shows them. Blizzard has fixed the Cloak of Fire which was clearly an off the wall bug. It took all of your +dmg gear and created an aoe effect when the cloak was used giving the full gear bonus. This should be +25 fire dmg/5 sec for 15sec. Faxmonkey with the bug is getting ~+750 fire dmg/5 sec for 15 sec inside of an iceblock (trinketed up). I believe it was fixed in 1.9.


Cloak of Flames =/= Cloak of Fire

Cloak of Flames
Binds when equipped
Back Cloth
50 Armor
+15 Fire Resistance
Requires Level 60
Equip: Deals 5 Fire damage to anyone who strikes you with a melee attack.
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=3475

Cloak of Fire
Binds when equipped
Back Cloth
39 Armor
+7 Stamina
+6 Fire Resistance
Requires Level 50
Use: Deals 25 Fire damage every 5 sec to all nearby enemies for 15 sec. (cooldown 2 min)
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=14134#wh-comments

Re: Cloak of Flames

PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:29 pm
by varth
Whoops my bad

Re: Cloak of Flames

PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:18 am
by Theloras
varth wrote:Whoops my bad


all good man :)

Re: Cloak of Flames

PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 6:12 am
by drfrozen
Hey guys.I got news for the cloak.I found a paladin named Belgrund who has this cloak and he says it does not scale when it is supposed to.So i posted it as an important issue(he posted it too) in the bugtracker and the devs said it will be fixed very soon in the following days,with the 1:1 spell damage ratio