PSA: Addons can get you banned.

Re: PSA: Addons can get you banned.

by Kaiji » Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:33 am

Bit wrote:What could happen exactly that's so bad? Just don't put auctions up for less than you would want to sell them (doh) and you'll be fine.


You seem extremely narrowminded and shortsighted.

If you really aren't able to figure out why someone shouldn't be able to use an addon to sweep the AH and automatically buyout any and all auctions that are below the going rate, when people who are completely unaware that the addon exists have to do it themselves, I'm completely wasting my time.

Does this honestly not seem unfair to you? Please drop the bullshit act and try to be honest here.
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Re: PSA: Addons can get you banned.

by Bit » Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:38 am

Kaiji wrote:Because I think it's the kind of thing a slimy selfish person would do and he fully deserved his ban. You disagree and that's absolutely your right. I have no problem being perceived as arrogant by someone who sympathizes with such a person.


But you see, it doesn't matter if I agree with "it's the kind of thing a slimy selfish person would do" but I don't think from that should follow that "he fully deserved his ban". It seems you're making a purely emotional argument for a ban which I find atrocious. This is mob justice.

He is playing the game as intended by blizzard so why should he deserve a ban even if you don't like what he's doing?
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Re: PSA: Addons can get you banned.

by shootermgavin » Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:42 am

Kaiji wrote:
Bit wrote:What could happen exactly that's so bad? Just don't put auctions up for less than you would want to sell them (doh) and you'll be fine.


You seem extremely narrowminded and shortsighted.

If you really aren't able to figure out why someone shouldn't be able to use an addon to sweep the AH and automatically buyout any and all auctions that are below the going rate, when people who are completely unaware that the addon exists have to do it themselves, I'm completely wasting my time.

Does this honestly not seem unfair to you? Please drop the bullshit act and try to be honest here.
life is not fair.

With your logic. People who know about Addons have an advantage over those who dont know that they even exist. unfair, ban all addons as they provide an unfair advantage.
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Re: PSA: Addons can get you banned.

by Kaiji » Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:43 am

Bit wrote:He is playing the game as intended by blizzard


There you go again... Talking bullshit.

I will rescind the above statement when you show me where Blizzard stated that they intended for people to use automatic AH sniping addons.

Note: "Possible to be done in the client during Vanilla" does not necessarily equal "Intended by Blizzard".
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Re: PSA: Addons can get you banned.

by Bit » Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:45 am

Kaiji wrote:
Bit wrote:What could happen exactly that's so bad? Just don't put auctions up for less than you would want to sell them (doh) and you'll be fine.


You seem extremely narrowminded and shortsighted.

If you really aren't able to figure out why someone shouldn't be able to use an addon to sweep the AH and automatically buyout any and all auctions that are below the going rate, when people who are completely unaware that the addon exists have to do it themselves, I'm completely wasting my time.

Does this honestly not seem unfair to you? Please drop the bullshit act and try to be honest here.


Does it not seem unfair to you when a 60 is ganking a lvl 20 in lakeshire? How is this different? Why would it matter if it's unfair? It's part. of. the. game. as. blizzard. intended. it. to. be.

By the way, you realize the addon won't farm the gold for you that you need to buy those auctions and won't ensure that you'll actually be able to sell them for more? And I have to repeat myself: It's been allowed from the start of the server. People have been using sniping addons a lot. But mostly just to snipe attempted transfers on the neutral AH because what you're suggesting simply doesn't work like you think it would.
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Re: PSA: Addons can get you banned.

by Bit » Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:47 am

Kaiji wrote:Note: "Possible to be done in the client during Vanilla" does not necessarily equal "Intended by Blizzard".

Yes, it kinda does. Especially if it's possible with a client from the end of vanilla and doesn't require any obscure loopholes.
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Re: PSA: Addons can get you banned.

by Kaiji » Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:49 am

You don't honestly believe that Blizzard intended to allow people to use automatic AH sniping addons that scan the entire AH and buyout all lowball auctions.

If you can stop talking bullshit we can have a serious discussion.
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Re: PSA: Addons can get you banned.

by Bit » Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:52 am

Kaiji wrote:You don't honestly believe that Blizzard intended to allow people to use automatic AH sniping addons that scan the entire AH and buyout all lowball auctions.

If you can stop talking bullshit we can have a serious discussion.


They intended them to be able to script all the functions which they put in the Lua API which includes that, yes.
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Re: PSA: Addons can get you banned.

by Kaiji » Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:55 am

Bit wrote:
Kaiji wrote:You don't honestly believe that Blizzard intended to allow people to use automatic AH sniping addons that scan the entire AH and buyout all lowball auctions.

If you can stop talking bullshit we can have a serious discussion.


They intended them to be able to script all the functions which they put in the Lua API which includes that, yes.


OK, then OP needs to be unbanned ASAP and automatic AH sniping addons should become widely used on Nostalrius.

In Bullshit World.
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Re: PSA: Addons can get you banned.

by Bit » Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:05 am

Ironically what you're describing is also still possible on retail. People just use the mousewheel to mass buy. (in fact, even buying with the default ah isn't that much slower since addons can only request one AH page per 4 seconds) Of course like I said it doesn't really work like this for reasons I've written above. What you need for this is not an addon but a good sense of your server's market and knowledge about economy in general and maybe psychology.

The only thing that's not possible anymore is to snipe transfers on the neutral AH while afk.
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