[AddOn] Aux - Enhanced Auction House Interface

Re: [AddOn] Aux - Enhanced Auction House Interface

by Patchett » Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:27 pm

TyrantRC wrote:Also the stack prices was ok but not really needed because when you are selling stacks you usually try to fix the price to a non decimal number, like 2g or 50g.


I disagree. I always take the price of the individual unit that I am trying to sell and then multiply it by the stack size. This way my prices on items are much more precise. I never do any rounding like that because the extra few silver/copper that you lose or gain by doing that adds up quickly when you are processing hundreds of auctions per week.
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Re: [AddOn] Aux - Enhanced Auction House Interface

by TyrantRC » Mon Feb 29, 2016 6:47 am

Patchett wrote:I disagree. I always take the price of the individual unit that I am trying to sell and then multiply it by the stack size. This way my prices on items are much more precise. I never do any rounding like that because the extra few silver/copper that you lose or gain by doing that adds up quickly when you are processing hundreds of auctions per week.


Well I usually round up, and ofc when you do stacks prices I meant something like instead of pricing 2g36s66c for the stack you use 2g35s and that's it, the stack price is there but you don't really use it since you use the unit price to convert it to stack price, but I can see how it can be useful. Bit loves to delete useful features from his addon in favor of simplicity, so I guess not much we can do there
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Re: [AddOn] Aux - Enhanced Auction House Interface

by Bit » Mon Feb 29, 2016 7:39 am

You were using the tooltip to calculate prices for ... auctions? Or COD or something?

If it's auctions then you might use the historical pricing model in the post tab which will automatically calculate the right price for the stack (though it uses historical price + 20%, not the exact historical price, which I could change of course but the idea was that you would usually use that when there's nothing to undercut and if you're the only one offering you can go a bit higher)

Using the tooltip to calculate stack prices seems awkward since you have to manually create stacks of the size you want to sell first.
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Re: [AddOn] Aux - Enhanced Auction House Interface

by shadowanker » Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:27 pm

This addon would be amazing if not for one thing. I have to manually type in the starting bid because it only undercuts the buyout price. This wouldn't matter so much if I could actually see the bid price from the posting page, but I have to switch back and forth and keep dragging the item into the posting slot to check the bid price.

Obviously this is only for undercutting, but I undercut the bid price in almost all my auctions, it's part of my strategy. Forcing me to use whatever the random starting bid it picks REALLY sucks! How could this possibly be overlooked?

Does anyone have anything to make this easier or a way around this?
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Re: [AddOn] Aux - Enhanced Auction House Interface

by shadowanker » Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:43 pm

Another thing. Automatically setting to 24h auction EVERY time I post an item. Having to type in "99g 32s 32c" into the same field.

My god these little things are totally ruining this for me
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Re: [AddOn] Aux - Enhanced Auction House Interface

by Bit » Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:47 pm

shadowanker wrote:Obviously this is only for undercutting, but I undercut the bid price in almost all my auctions, it's part of my strategy. Forcing me to use whatever the random starting bid it picks REALLY sucks! How could this possibly be overlooked?

There's nothing random about it, it's always 5% less than the buyout price.

The reason the bid isn't shown is because the post tab was originally based on the Auctionator sell tab and Auctionator doesn't support bids at all, even in its search, even on retail. TSM on retail also did not support bidding for a long time. This is not completely unreasonable, it's simply because the majority of people don't bother with bids (on retail at least I guess).

Now I'm not against the idea of adding more bid support to the post tab. However, since the mechanism for undercutting (select the entry to use from the list) is taken from Auctionator, is simple and intuitive and has been the same since version 1.0 of Aux and I'm hesitant to change it before I've completely thought it through.

Some issues that would have to be considered:
The default ah lists the high bid or starting price, not the amount you actually have to bid for. For the starting price that's the same, but with the high bid you also have to add the min increment. Now what should be shown in the post listing/what should be undercut exactly?
Also clearly you wouldn't necessarily want to use the same auction to undercut for the bid as for the buyout, so how should this be handled visually? Using two differently colored highlights on the list? Or some sort of alphabetic indicator? And what about selecting them? Left click for buyout undercut, right click for bid? But now we're kinda leaving the realm of intuitiveness.
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Re: [AddOn] Aux - Enhanced Auction House Interface

by Bit » Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:49 pm

shadowanker wrote:Another thing. Automatically setting to 24h auction EVERY time I post an item.

It does that only the first time, then the setting is remembered for that item.
shadowanker wrote:Having to type in "99g 32s 32c" into the same field.

Not sure what you mean.
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Re: [AddOn] Aux - Enhanced Auction House Interface

by shadowanker » Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:59 pm

Bit wrote:
shadowanker wrote:Another thing. Automatically setting to 24h auction EVERY time I post an item.

It does that only the first time, then the setting is remembered for that item.
shadowanker wrote:Having to type in "99g 32s 32c" into the same field.

Not sure what you mean.


Thanks for the quick reply.

I mean not having separate fields for gold, silver, and copper. Typing it in is a bit time consuming.
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Re: [AddOn] Aux - Enhanced Auction House Interface

by Bit » Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:00 pm

shadowanker wrote:
Thanks for the quick reply.

I mean not having separate fields for gold, silver, and copper. Typing it in is a bit time consuming.


You can type 99.3232g or 993232c to make it easier.
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Re: [AddOn] Aux - Enhanced Auction House Interface

by shadowanker » Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:03 pm

Bit wrote:
shadowanker wrote:Obviously this is only for undercutting, but I undercut the bid price in almost all my auctions, it's part of my strategy. Forcing me to use whatever the random starting bid it picks REALLY sucks! How could this possibly be overlooked?

There's nothing random about it, it's always 5% less than the buyout price.

The reason the bid isn't shown is because the post tab was originally based on the Auctionator sell tab and Auctionator doesn't support bids at all, even in its search, even on retail. TSM on retail also did not support bidding for a long time. This is not completely unreasonable, it's simply because the majority of people don't bother with bids (on retail at least I guess).

Now I'm not against the idea of adding more bid support to the post tab. However, since the mechanism for undercutting (select the entry to use from the list) is taken from Auctionator, is simple and intuitive and has been the same since version 1.0 of Aux and I'm hesitant to change it before I've completely thought it through.

It wouldn't completely solve the problem, but having the bid price shown on the table would help out a ton. I don't think anyone would mind an extra column. That could be an easy fix right?
And then from there you could consider more support in the future but at least it would give people something to use in the meantime.
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