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On AH scans

PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:54 am
by Bit
I've been pondering whether Aux should do AH scans like auctioneer. It would actually be very trivial to implement but I don't want to add bloat without good reasons. Those who would like to see it, could you provide some reasons why?

As for auctioneer-like AH snapshots, while conceptually nifty, it seems to me they're completely pointless as the data quickly loses its value over time and without the full scan functionality from later expansions scanning the whole AH takes like 30 minutes, so most of it will already be old when you first get to look at it.

This leaves the historical value which I guess could be interesting but also doesn't seem that useful most of the time except to provide price suggestions in the rare cases when there are no other auctions on the AH (which mostly happens only for rare items and then it'll probably be inaccurate anyway ...) And it's not clear what the historical value should even be exactly. A simple average? Calculated by a lua function editable by the user that gets an array of historical buyout prices as input? etc. ...

Re: On AH scans

PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:34 pm
by Coreborn
If people want auctioneer scanning, they can use auctioneer.
I use both. But had to change some things on the sell tab of aux,
like overlapping frames.

What you say about:
As for auctioneer-like AH snapshots, while conceptually nifty, it seems to me they're completely pointless as the data quickly loses its value over time and without the full scan functionality from later expansions scanning the whole AH takes like 30 minutes, so most of it will already be old when you first get to look at it.


Aux is good for consumer based auctions,
but without auctioneer its kind of useless if you want to play the "stock broker" market.

This is where snapshots come into play. You get the ability to figure out when to sell and when to buy,
but this requires you to scan AH 2 times a day for minimum 2 weeks before starting to buy and sell,
and than continue the process every day 2 times a day (if possible)

What i do agree on is that you shouldnt bloat aux more. Because its already on the edge,
i personally had to remove a lot from aux because it dosnt play well with other addons. ;)

But just do what your vision tells you. Not what other people wants.
Because you cant please everyone. If they want it different. They should learn to program lua.
If they dont want to learn to program lua. They should just be happy with what they get. :!:

Re: On AH scans

PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 2:15 pm
by Bit
Coreborn wrote:This is where snapshots come into play. You get the ability to figure out when to sell and when to buy,
but this requires you to scan AH 2 times a day for minimum 2 weeks before starting to buy and sell,
and than continue the process every day 2 times a day (if possible)


How does this help you figure that out? Isn't it more of an argument for historical values? I mean, the snapshot is thrown away every time you make a new scan.

Coreborn wrote:What i do agree on is that you shouldnt bloat aux more. Because its already on the edge,
i personally had to remove a lot from aux because it dosnt play well with other addons.


Hm, sorry but that's only going to get worse xD. Not because of bloat, rather simplifications even. Like the changes to the sell backend in the latest version. Also I'm eventually going to completely replace the GUI with something more modern looking though I've yet to figure out the best way to get rid of the default one (making it size 1x1 and 0 opacity? ... seems a bit hacky).

What other addons do you use if I may ask and in what way do they conflict with Aux?

Re: On AH scans

PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:07 pm
by Flp1LUPh
EngInventory and Aux dont like each other. When you have EngInventory on, you cant place items in the 'sell' tab

Re: On AH scans

PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:53 pm
by Bit
You mean with alt click? You should still be able to drag them to the big panel that says "Drag an item ..."
As for the alt click there's no elegant solution for inventory addons like enginventory that don't call the blizzard inventory functions. The only solution really is to add a special case for all such addons. But most addons like e.g. onebag are sane enough to call the blizzard functions.