Why didn't I get banned for mining in Silithus?

[terrigurl]

Mate who are you trying to fool? I have tried mining in a hive, I'm not a rogue but I know how densely packed they are. Sure you can probably get a few of the veins without aggroing, but the vast majority of hive veins got atleast 1 mob nearby.
If you truly was a saint then you wouldn't have to be so passive aggressive in your replies since you know you're in the right.

Enjoy your ban, even if you was innocent then I still would have no empathy for you considering how much of an ass you're proving to be.

Wow, I'm the ass? You're sitting here just stomping on the people who spent probably months+ on their accounts who got wrongfully banned. Guess my definition of an asshole differs from yours. Secondly you can believe whatever you want, go check the hives, you will see that the actual veins themselves are not "surrounded" by any mobs. Most of them, in northern Silithus, are only level 57+ too so their aggro-range isn't that big.

And for the record, I would like to see you not be angry when some smug idiot sits and spouts shit about you after you received a permanent ban for doing nothing wrong.

[Mopar]

Terrigurl is correct. The workers don't agro (these are the ones that path through the tunnels, and look like beetles.) They are not suppose to. There are mobs that DO agro, and they do if you unstealth too closely to them. But agro or not is not the exploit, and I can prove it.

I'm in the category of folks who have a rogue that mines in Silithus, and did NOT get banned. And I can mine every single node there. Every one. Without killing a single bug. Whether it agros to me or not. Here's how:

1) Start mining the node. This unstealths you.
2) If a nearby bug agros, Blind. You get 2 hits on the node during that time.
3) Let bug come to you, then Gouge. You get 1 more hit on the node at that time.
4) Sprint or run (to get some distance), and vanish. They will see thru your imp vanish if you are too close.
5) If you have Prep, use it. Otherwise wait a couple mins til vanish comes up.
6) Blind again. You get 2 more hits on the node, and the max is 5 so that's it. Vanish again.

There is nothing about this that is in any way an exploit. And it is obvious that whether a bug agros or not has absolutely nothing to do with the reasons for the ban. Which to this time, remain unknown.

So I've got the same question. Why was >I< not banned? Was it because i took a break the last week and a half and didn't mine (dodging a bullet)? Was it because I didn't do it at an "industrial" level and never mined over 500 nodes per week? Was there actually some exploit someone was using?

What is it that I didn't do that they did? But I'm taking The GM's note to heart that it is OK to mine in Silithus now, so I am continuing to mine every node I find.

Edit: I should add, there is not one node in the entire zone that you can't tap at 60 agroing more than 1 mob if you are careful. And for some nodes, the mob pats out of range, and you can distract it instead and mine.

[terrigurl]

Terrigurl is correct. The workers don't agro (these are the ones that path through the tunnels, and look like beetles.) They are not suppose to. There are mobs that DO agro, and they do if you unstealth too closely to them. But agro or not is not the exploit, and I can prove it.

I'm in the category of folks who have a rogue that mines in Silithus, and did NOT get banned. And I can mine every single node there. Every one. Without killing a single bug. Whether it agros to me or not. Here's how:

1) Start mining the node. This unstealths you.
2) If a nearby bug agros, Blind. You get 2 hits on the node during that time.
3) Let bug come to you, then Gouge. You get 1 more hit on the node at that time.
4) Sprint or run (to get some distance), and vanish. They will see thru your imp vanish if you are too close.
5) If you have Prep, use it. Otherwise wait a couple mins til vanish comes up.
6) Blind again. You get 2 more hits on the node, and the max is 5 so that's it. Vanish again.

There is nothing about this that is in any way an exploit. And it is obvious that whether a bug agros or not has absolutely nothing to do with the reasons for the ban. Which to this time, remain unknown.

So I've got the same question. Why was >I< not banned? Was it because i took a break the last week and a half and didn't mine (dodging a bullet)? Was it because I didn't do it at an "industrial" level and never mined over 500 nodes per week? Was there actually some exploit someone was using?

What is it that I didn't do that they did? But I'm taking The GM's note to heart that it is OK to mine in Silithus now, so I am continuing to mine every node I find.

It's kinda funny when you think about it. Apparently "exploiting" a bug is okay if you do it a couple of times a week on a casual basis. If you do it any more than that it's fine. Good logic.

[Dreez]

It's kinda funny when you think about it. Apparently "exploiting" a bug is okay if you do it a couple of times a week on a casual basis. If you do it any more than that it's fine. Good logic.

Taking the amount of farming into consideration is necessary as it is the only measurable way to impute a bad intention. Else anyone who ran by and found a node by accident could've been banned.

[Mopar]

It's kinda funny when you think about it. Apparently "exploiting" a bug is okay if you do it a couple of times a week on a casual basis. If you do it any more than that it's fine. Good logic.

But the question is, what exactly was the bug? (According to GM response, it was not the node respawn time.) So what was it?

And that's the crux of the OP question.

If I knew what the exploit was, and that I didn't do it, I would be satisfied that GMs made a reasonable decision. But since I don't, and people who were banned do not appear to have done anything differently, it appears to be completely capricious. Or that I simply lucked out.

I don't want to be not banned due to good luck. And I don't want to be banned due to bad luck. I have 63 days played on this account, and that is a hell of a lot of time to go to waste on something so stupid.

[terrigurl]

It's kinda funny when you think about it. Apparently "exploiting" a bug is okay if you do it a couple of times a week on a casual basis. If you do it any more than that it's fine. Good logic.

Taking the amount of farming into consideration is necessary as it is the only measurable way to impute a bad intention. Else anyone who ran by and found a node by accident could've been banned.

I guess, but the difference of time spent mining from the ones who got banned and the ones who didn't was probably not that big. Cause I know for a fact that a guy who was mining there for 3x the amount that I was for the past week or two did not get banned. The correct way to all of this would just be a server-wide warning followed by a quick fix.

[Mopar]

Taking the amount of farming into consideration is necessary as it is the only measurable way to impute a bad intention. Else anyone who ran by and found a node by accident could've been banned.

My rogue is one of my three lvl 60s. I keep it parked permanently in Silithus specifically to mine.
Does that imply bad intention? I've got 63 days played on my account. Does that impute a bad intention in some way? (It might impute a bit of an obsession maybe...)

I don't buy the argument that if you play too much you must be exploiting.

[Datruth]

@terrigurl If you're innocent and got a ban it's a shit server and you should be happy you didn't get to waste more time here. That's why I don't get why you are mad unless you are mad because someone is calling your bullshit.

@Mopar Why do you always show up and make it clear that you haven't read anything before posting? YES the workers are passive, but they are supposed to aggro when you either mine a vein or aggro one of the aggresive mobs, but that wasn't happening.
Ty for pointing out that you need to burn all your cooldowns in order to get a guarded vein, now good luck getting the rest of the guarded ones now that the workers aren't bugged anymore.

The bans wasn't due to spawns, so it was obviously due to the mobs. Feel free to dig around for GM responses, I cba linking them to you since you make it clear you don't even read before posting.
Are you trying to break a record for most false facts in a single post?

I cannot tell you why you wasn't banned, ask a GM. My guess would be you either didn't do it in a high enough volume or you were not active in the period they decided to supervise the veins.

[Darkwinjax]

It's kinda funny when you think about it. Apparently "exploiting" a bug is okay if you do it a couple of times a week on a casual basis. If you do it any more than that it's fine. Good logic.

Taking the amount of farming into consideration is necessary as it is the only measurable way to impute a bad intention. Else anyone who ran by and found a node by accident could've been banned.

I guess, but the difference of time spent mining from the ones who got banned and the ones who didn't was probably not that big. Cause I know for a fact that a guy who was mining there for 3x the amount that I was for the past week or two did not get banned. The correct way to all of this would just be a server-wide warning followed by a quick fix.

Correct way to do this is to ban said player along with the ones who already got banned, not forgive the wrongdoers because of someone who abused 3x more and isn't banned

[Mopar]

Correct way to do this is to ban said player along with the ones who already got banned, not forgive the wrongdoers because of someone who abused 3x more and isn't banned

The correct way for police to pull over a speeder is to pull the car over, walk up to the driver's window, pull out their service revolver and execute the driver. Then put the speeding ticket under a wiper blade in view of the passing traffic.

It's very effective done this way.