Banned for mining, is it permanent?

[Robotron]

It's not like you were resetting the same junkbox until it gave you an Alcor's or something.

[RIPPAHREKT]

and why there is only 5 people that was banned, the nodes are there from the begining of nostalrius that means overe 6months and theres just 5 people 5 rogues only farming the whole thing for over 6 months ? but cmon theres like 30 rogues that were farming those nodes i wont say names because i dont want to get anyone in trouble the same people that are in silithus at the moment where there before the bans happend.. because nobody knew that we're abusing and there was not only rogues farming.. mages, hunters and even warriors.. and you just perma ban 5 rogues thats kinda sad.

[PriestInOurTime]

Please GMs, when handling issues like this you should use a "reasonable man" approach.

It would seem absolutely clear at this point that a "reasonable man" would often come to the conclusion that there was no bug going on here. And in that case, regardless of how much they farmed this spot, a ban is NOT the correct approach to take.

Unless, of course, you want to make it a bannable offense to farm anything for over 50 hours a week. Regardless of if it is bugged or not. Because that is what you are effectively doing here.

This post seems to hint that something radically different is the reason for the banning. If something like that is the reason then you really need to let us know in some detail because at the moment your credibility is at an all time low given the perceived reason for the bans.

[Whyutrippin]

In the other thread Deamon stated:

Re: Banned for mining
by Daemon » Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:20 pm

About 5 accounts have been banned for exploiting this bug, that is fixed now.
These accounts were doing it at an "industrial level" (gathering these same nodes way more than 500 times a week !) and thus gathering a lot of gold/items in a very little period of time.

But if there is only one node they abuse, there is not even possible to farm it 500 times a week with the 45minute respawn timer.

60min x 24h = 1440 minutes a day
1440 x 7 days = 10080 minutes a week
10080/45 min = 224 spawns each week. <-- are you awake every spawn of the week you're doing pretty good.

This is ofc if its a set 45 minute respawn which it should be. And if its one spot being aboused. And again to give someone with over 20days played time a permabann w/o warning to doing something that they dont know is bannable is fucking stupid. It's ignorant to say the least, to think that everyone should know how everything in vanilla worked and what is an 100% abuse. And to even have to run everythings by the GM:s... asking them. "is this a legit way to make gold". Give them a warning. a 1-3 days bann, take away profits. But to permabann people are just an total abuse of power IMO.

[Robotron]

As far as I understand it, there are something like 29 Ooze-Covered Rich Thorium Veins in the Silithus hives. Each one is (was?) guaranteed to spawn exactly 45 minutes after it was depleted. Knowing this and the optimal route to farm them, you can get every single node, smelt your ore, mail it to an alt or vendor it, and be in position for the first one to respawn.

Rinse and repeat for several hours a day, and, assuming no competition, you are farming hundreds of Arcane Crystals on top of other stuff.

Now what I believe the staff's issue was is the nodes are not supposed to behave this way. Thing is, none of the miners had any idea of this (I know Rippah didn't) and were banned for "knowingly abusing a major bug."

That there's the bullshit, unless there's something the GMs aren't telling us.

[Guidewhyre]

That there's the bullshit, unless there's something the GMs aren't telling us.

With the info that they've provided, this appears to be exactly the reason for the ban waves. I have a rogue that I've used to mine those veins in Silithus. There's like a small community of rogues and druids that go there and compete for the nodes. I've run into Rippah a few times, so I know exactly what he was doing.

I've lost any confidence in GMs to make rational decisions on this server. The lack of communication is appalling. You have no way of knowing if what you are doing will get you banned the next day.

[notgunnahappen]

That there's the bullshit, unless there's something the GMs aren't telling us.

This is quoted from Voltog in another thread that was locked in General,

The ban was regarding an exploit which was abused on a "industrial level" which really means they abused it alot and intentionally, the wording could have been abit better.

And no the ban is not due to the spawn time of the nodes.

Best regards, GM team.


The ones banned aren't telling the full story.

[Lorilay]

It seems pretty silly to throw out bans for these kind of bugs when a quick message or a warning from a GM would have completely solved it.

[Aklol]

this thread is very familiar

[RIPPAHREKT]

It seems pretty silly to throw out bans for these kind of bugs when a quick message or a warning from a GM would have completely solved it.

Exactly there was not even a warning from a gm, a global announce or a forum post just like that they choose 5 people from all that was farming it and banned them for a thing they dont know they were abusing... just like that all the work you puted in your character just like that poof REKT