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Regarding a ban issued a few days ago

PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:13 pm
by tjae12
First of all, this ban doesn't really affect me in any major way, and I hardly knew the person other than having said "Hi" to him in the guild chat. I'm only writing this because what happened was brought to my attention by someone else in the guild chat and I felt that it was bullshit and extremely unprofessional.

So, it's regarding this ban: http://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=34114

From what I've understood, he simply let his wife press a button a single time to make him not go AFK.

First of all, what I heard (from someone else in the guild) was that the GM approached him (her) by saying something along the lines of "what software are you using to AFK?", and only hearing that, it seems quite obvious that the GM was out for banning someone from the start.

Second, account sharing is almost always defined as sharing account information or actually "co-owning" an account, not letting someone try something on another player's account. Any professional company would NEVER ban someone for letting his 3-year old child try to kill a boar, and what happened in this case is even further away from account sharing than that.

I myself just started playing here with a couple of friends about 2 weeks ago because I had heard that this was a great vanilla server and that it was developed and handled in a professional way. However, this definitely makes me question what I've heard and it makes me wonder if it's really worth playing on a server where the GMs seem to be doing everything they can to find minor reasons to ban someone.

Re: Regarding a ban issued a few days ago

PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:16 pm
by Mimma
This guy let his wife play his character for him. Yes, she only moved it to keep him non-AFK in a BG, but where do you draw the line for account sharing?

The GM's have made it very clear: they have a zero-tolerance.
If they unban him for account sharing, what about all others being banned for account sharing? You would suddenly have to judge each case by a certain degree - impossible I'd say.

Re: Regarding a ban issued a few days ago

PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:24 pm
by Multikai
Somebody other than the account holder used the account. It's very simple. i will take a look at the ToU again but am pretty sure it doesn't say account sharing only applies if you give out your account information to the person sharing.

The other thing is, how is it fair to other people who don't share. They may have gotten in trouble for going AFK (assuming you can or what reason would there be to prevent it) so it gives the shared account a bonus that could only be replicated by an anti AFK bot, which is bannable.

Of course these are just my thoughts.

Re: Regarding a ban issued a few days ago

PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:33 pm
by notgunnahappen
You are very naiive to believe excuses from someone over the internet.


spoiler, they use people such as 'wife' or 'very young child' to try and get compassion out of a GM to lift their ban. They're cheaters and will lie all day to try and get their way

Re: Regarding a ban issued a few days ago

PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:36 pm
by tjae12
Mimma:
I'd hardly call that "play his character for him" as pressing a button isn't playing. If it is, then my cat apparently plays WoW (and "shares" my account).

I'd agree if she was actually playing the whole BG for him, but few would argue that letting someone press a button can be considered sharing the account, or even lending the account, and the only reason he was banned for this was because of their honesty. If anything, this discourages honesty.

Multikai:
Yes, I never said the ToU doesn't state it like that in this case, just that no serious company ever would consider this to go under the same rule as account sharing.

notgunnahappen:
So you're saying that they've been faking being married since I joined this guild ~10 days ago, and they just happened to live with each other for some other reason than being married? You do know that it all happened on one computer, right? In my eyes, it seems more likely that they're telling the truth.

Re: Regarding a ban issued a few days ago

PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:58 pm
by Pottu
Greetings,

our terms of use are very clear. Circumventing the automated AFK process that boots you from a battleground and sharing your account both lead to a permanent ban regardless of the method used.

The GM team.