Please remove the frozen for me

Please remove the frozen for me

by Askforhelp » Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:14 pm

Please show evidence that I really foul
As a hunter,I was Mauradon earn gold, why fouls, others are all here to make money
This is racial discrimination? If you don't let the Chinese to participate in the game, you can show the announcement on the BBS, banned Chinese inside
I don't understand you, as a hardcore players of wow, I really love this game
Would you please consider to remove my freeze
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Re: Please remove the frozen for me

by thenuclearwalrus » Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:49 pm

The Burden of proof that you have done nothing wrong falls on you, not Nost, if you cannot provide proof that you are not breaking the rules, you deserve the ban.
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Re: Please remove the frozen for me

by notgunnahappen » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:38 am

Askforhelp wrote:This is racial discrimination? If you don't let the Chinese to participate in the game, you can show the announcement on the BBS, banned Chinese inside


Watch out, they're on to us
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Re: Please remove the frozen for me

by Soyoen » Fri Mar 25, 2016 2:44 am

thenuclearwalrus wrote:The Burden of proof that you have done nothing wrong falls on you, not Nost, if you cannot provide proof that you are not breaking the rules, you deserve the ban.

Random ban anyone guilty or not and they will not be able to provide "proof" that they have not been breaking the rules in accordance to your statement, and thus deserve the ban.

The proof in all these cases consists of what information the Nostalrius team has gathered, analyzed and confirmed against offender X. Sure mistakes do happen very rarely from time to time and has thus been corrected by the team themselves. The burden of proof is anything but transperent here so you need to establish a dialogue in order for you to be able to provide the "evidence" that you have done nothing wrong. Then we are obviously not counting in to the fact that every bit of information can be tampered with.


Example:
You are banned.
You make an appeal, you were banned for "major bug exploiting".
You have no idea how to provide evidence against that.
You are remain banned.

Example:
You are banned.
You make an appeal, you were banned for "gold trafficking".
You contact X and provide whatever information you can.
X can now choose to unban your account or decline your appeal, knowing that every bit of information you provided may have been tampered with towards your advantage.
You are most likely still banned.


TL:DR; Players being unbanned are usually due to an initial mistake/harsh decision/false positive by X, however in most if not all cases there is no real burden of proof - only the public perception of it: Nostalrius doesn't need to show you their proof as to why you got banned, and you can't in >99% of the cases provide evidence against their ruling.
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Re: Please remove the frozen for me

by Cabotage » Fri Mar 25, 2016 4:29 am

What is the name of your character and what server are they on?
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Re: Please remove the frozen for me

by Askforhelp » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:19 am

Character name:xiaonigu level 60 PVP
I always play by the rules, did not participate in the sale of accounts and gold coins
You can log in to my account to check whether illegal
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Re: Please remove the frozen for me

by Askforhelp » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:23 am

I love this game, please give me a chance to be born again, and I do not want to lose it
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Re: Please remove the frozen for me

by xt0rt » Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:54 pm

notgunnahappen wrote:
Askforhelp wrote:This is racial discrimination? If you don't let the Chinese to participate in the game, you can show the announcement on the BBS, banned Chinese inside


Watch out, they're on to us


This is the best thing I have read all day. Obvious gold farmer is obvious and pulling the ZOMG RACIST card ain't gonna help.
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Re: Please remove the frozen for me

by Askforhelp » Sat Mar 26, 2016 4:57 am

gold farmer ?How do you prove?
Don't want disorderly speak
Would it be possible for GM to check my account,Gold does not exceed 100G
If you are rich than me, isn't it prove you is the gold farmers
I can't understand your stupid idea
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Re: Please remove the frozen for me

by Benevael » Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:36 pm

Please make sure to read the Nostalrius terms of use. https://en.nostalrius.org/terms-of-use
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