Well buddy to speak frankly the mining ores and herbs are indeed too or may i say way close to nothing, for me these arent % rates, in fact there well as nothing i had problems both in herbalism and in the same time worst time in mining...my answear to ur question is simple dont pick mining nor herbalism ESPECIALLY since its player versus enviroment just grab something like skinning for start better or enchanting even better cause u are gonna have quite a big stack of greens and its a shame to sell them to vendors for a couple coins better make them mats, but yeah copper was the hardest mining ore BUT u were wrong on 1 thing...silver pine dosent nearly have 1/3 of mining ores compared to other places like durotar for example and u dont need addon to clarify that also wait till u hit a rly high lvl for lvling profs i prefer wait till 60 that would be the best move in my humble opinion and to say another fact with ores...u can farm copper in other ways too not just from mining ores, they drop from countless mobs pretty much so when u find even 1 since u know how hard is it to gather stack those up and use them wisely altho in 60 making gold even from greys is easier than some other lvls so i suggest u wait and that way if ur boring farming either from mobs or veins u can bought them from AH which they will be at start expensive but i hardly recomend take any stack at the price of 2-4 gold cause this will last only a few months at the beginning so no worries, would be stupid to buy 1 stack of copper ore or bars for 4 or even 2 golds 1 gold on the other hand is some what better but they will reduce the prices to 50-80 silver trust me on that, plus there are still many new players that havent this experience in ores so they dont realize the value of copper so they will just throw them in AH for a couple of bids like some friends did hapily and i grabbed the chance

and do not criticise me for this...they had copper...i was in a state that i was gonna throw my 1 hand into the fire to obtain some...so things had to be made so i trainded in the dark side
'following the path of using ur close friends unawareness in game was always been the way" :<
warning: do not pick mining at start, avoid it like the plague or if posible if 1 char player ignore it entirely
*mining=cancer
*mining ores=cancer cells
*ore sellers=infected
"do not try to come in contact with the 3rd"