Getting exalted with darnassus

[kpbendi]

I have done all darnassus quests from lvl12 on the PVE server, including all at the starter zone, and got revered + 5000 by doing all quests at feralas. So still 16K rep missing, and almost run out of quests.
I was literally hunting darnassus quests just to do them at the right level to get max. rep. but most of them not even giving rep at all, or give to a different faction like cenarion circle. And there is absolutely no quests between lvl30 and 40 that gives any darn rep.
db.vanillagaming is unreliable since there is no indication which patch a quest was added to the game, so complete chains are missing.
Morrowgrain farming is a joke. It takes hundreds of hours to even have a slight chance to get any significant rep to darn if you are not herbalist, since the droprate is ridiculusly low and there is a 10 min cd on each try.
So until the cloth donation patch is not active and you are not a human herbalist, it is better to give up on getting exalted with darnassus, because it is nearly impossible without boting.

[Cha]

If you don't start from lvl 1, it's almost impossible, since you get tons of rep from the nelf starting zone... but if you do every single darnassus quests, you can ding exalted at lvl 41 (humans), or lvl 46-47 for non-humans, without the morrograin quests.

[felhunty]

is there some penalty for reputation awarded, if the quest is done as lowlevel? e.g. doing teldrassil on level 30..etc.

[kpbendi]

If you don't start from lvl 1, it's almost impossible, since you get tons of rep from the nelf starting zone... but if you do every single darnassus quests, you can ding exalted at lvl 41 (humans), or lvl 46-47 for non-humans, without the morrograin quests.

As I wrote, I started at lvl12, and did all starting zone quests (for less rep ofc), so that means you can get 15K rep between lvl1 and lvl12? Because I did every quest at the righ lvl after lvl12.
What I dont understand that if it is possible to get exalted at lvl 41-45, it also should be possible at around lvl33 since - according to db.vanillagaming.org - there is not a single quest between lvl30-40 that gives darnassus rep.

[Cha]

I don't remember exactly how much rep you get from the starting zones but it's 10-12k+ rep for sure, including rare spawns, alchemy quests and later, quests in non-nelf zones like "The bride of the embalmer" in Duskwood.

What I dont understand that if it is possible to get exalted at lvl 41-45, it also should be possible at around lvl33.

Iirc at lvl 33 you should need 2 or 3k more rep, there's a quest chain at lvl 37-38 that gives darna rep, and then feralas at lvl 40-41, there are several quest chains at the Feathermoon Stronghold.

[Noxm]

In later patch you can do this quest http://db.vanillagaming.org/?quest=7800

[kpbendi]

In later patch you can do this quest http://db.vanillagaming.org/?quest=7800

Yeah, this is how I am gonna get darnassus rep, like I did in retail. However the whole point of questing and struggling with morrowgrain is to get exalted before the 1.5 patch, so I can buy the tiger without armor, but it seems I have give up on that.

[kpbendi]

I don't remember exactly how much rep you get from the starting zones but it's 10-12k+ rep for sure, including rare spawns, alchemy quests and later, quests in non-nelf zones like "The bride of the embalmer" in Duskwood.

What I dont understand that if it is possible to get exalted at lvl 41-45, it also should be possible at around lvl33.

Iirc at lvl 33 you should need 2 or 3k more rep, there's a quest chain at lvl 37-38 that gives darna rep, and then feralas at lvl 40-41, there are several quest chains at the Feathermoon Stronghold.

As mage it is kinda impossible to quest at the nelf starter zone from lvl1, since you need to go back and forth between darnassus and IF to buy spells in every 15 minutes or so, because there is no mage trainer in darnassus. At low lvl you hardly get 1s / level, so you cant even afford flying. This means you need to run through wetland, ie. getting killed dozens of times by lvl 22 crocks, then repeat the whole jurney back. And you need to do this at least 5 times till lvl 10. This means leveling 1-10 would take more than a week. Even farming morrowgrain is less frustrating than that.

Anyway I hardly believe that quests in teldrassil would give 12K rep, since when you leave to darkshore you usually reach honored as nelf, which means about 3-4K rep.
Also one of the biggest problem of all, that there is no reliable source about which quests give reputation to which faction in which patches. Even vanilla guides and databases are based on pre-tbc patches, and it seems blizzard changed extremely lot about quests and reputations between patches.
So even if you wanna do everything by the book (which I tried) you have to realize that there is'nt any book.

[Cha]

Anyway I hardly believe that quests in teldrassil would give 12K rep

I checked again, if you do every single quest in Teldrassil, including Ruth'eran, the rare spawn near the rogue quest, without the children's week/linen cloth/class specific quests, you should earn 10465 rep (11k5 for humans).
I checked here, did every single quest and skipped those i couldn't find ingame, it was still a good ressource even if it's not 100% accurate.

Also, there's a shortcut from menethil to dun morogh, you can skip the painfull part with the crocodiles and earth back to dolanaar once you learned your spells.

[kpbendi]

Ok, so as far as I see, I skipped about 8K rep because I did the Teldrassil quests too late. Fine. If I add that to the current rep I've got (revered 5K), I would still need 8K rep to be exalted.
So I need to farm morrowgrain to gather 8K rep.
I've made a test, and collected 100 un'goro soils. I also created a herbalist alt and done all consuming with that for better droprate. After consuming seeds in every 10 minutes for almost 10 hours, I got 53 morrowgrain. That is about 1 morrowgrain / 10 minutes ratio.
100 soils needed 1.5 hours to farm (usually just running around in un'goro and looting dirt piles - way faster than killing mobs - dirt piles respaws pretty fast), and did the consuming at work (kept pushing a button on my laptop in every 10 minutes - I hope that doesnt count as botting .
At the end I farmed 5x75 = 375 rep with darnassus in 11.5 hours!
If I played on my non-herbalist main, the droprate was about 3 morrowgrain from 10 consumes, means almost 5 hour for 75 rep, so either I'd need to create a new acc for the alt and doing the consuming parallel (which is considered multiboxing - ie. against terms of use) or log off - log in every 10 minutes.
So consuming morrowgrain while farming soils or questing is a no go because of the extremely low drop-rate for non-herbalists.
But still with the herb alt, it would take 213 hours of game time to gather 8K rep from morrowgrain that needed. That means 8-10 days of constant playing without interruption, so calculating with a more realistic 3 hours of playing / day = 71 days of farming.
But I need 16K rep, so if I'd spend all my time on farming soils and consuming, I'd need 142 days (aprox. 5 months) to get all morrowgrain. If I'd do anything else in the game (ie. playing on my main), the droprate would drastically decrease, so the time would go up to 426 days: more than a year!

So let's be realistic: if you do _anything_ else in the game than darnassus quests from lvl1 or if you skip few quests on the way, or you are not botting, you practically have no chance to be exalted with darnassus before the 1.5 patch.