To Smork the Hunter, shameless exploiter of Azuregos.

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Re: To Smork the Hunter, shameless exploiter of Azuregos.

by Bartolo » Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:31 am

Plxtreme wrote:
Bartolo wrote:The main reason I don't play Alliance, on my retail server and this one, it always seems that Alliance needs extra help: PVE raid + PVP raid against PVE raiders.

We didn't sort it out this way.

And at the end of the day we defended our hill.


Dude, the boss spawns next to your main city... you had the tag first and wiped.


How was your first kill like? your hunter kiting and a dozen of Alliance guilds doting it.
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Re: To Smork the Hunter, shameless exploiter of Azuregos.

by Stephanie » Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:39 am

One could argue any method of trying to tag the opposing faction when they clearly don't want to be flagged for pvp is exploitative, I know I personally learned the hard way that using aoe near a flagged person flags me for pvp. Trying to draw a line in the sand and saying these methods of tagging people are fine while these others are not seems irrelevant.

Plus the old Blizzard rules for a PVE server seem to state that interfering with a legitimately tagged outdoor raid boss was against teh rulez! (Though I'm somewhat confused why they mention level 1 characters?)

http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-general/2375146.htm

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Re: To Smork the Hunter, shameless exploiter of Azuregos.

by Valentine » Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:46 am

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Valentine wrote:I'll talk to Viva about it. Exploits aren't cool. Would be great if you guys refrained from using them (or whatever it is you're doing to flag our tanks) too.

Your tanks are getting flagged through battleshouting a flagged party member or accidental misclicks.


100% false. I have been flagged on both attempts. I am completely certain I did not use any shouts. Same happened to Krug today.

Whatever, obviously you don't know what you're talking about.
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Re: To Smork the Hunter, shameless exploiter of Azuregos.

by Plxtreme » Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:50 am

Bartolo wrote:
Plxtreme wrote:
Bartolo wrote:The main reason I don't play Alliance, on my retail server and this one, it always seems that Alliance needs extra help: PVE raid + PVP raid against PVE raiders.

We didn't sort it out this way.

And at the end of the day we defended our hill.


Dude, the boss spawns next to your main city... you had the tag first and wiped.


How was your first kill like? your hunter kiting and a dozen of Alliance guilds doting it.


Pretty much exactly like this one but the aggro bounced between a lot of people instead of just 1 hunter.
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Re: To Smork the Hunter, shameless exploiter of Azuregos.

by aconniseur » Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:24 am

Valentine wrote:
aconniseur wrote:
Valentine wrote:I'll talk to Viva about it. Exploits aren't cool. Would be great if you guys refrained from using them (or whatever it is you're doing to flag our tanks) too.

Your tanks are getting flagged through battleshouting a flagged party member or accidental misclicks.


100% false. I have been flagged on both attempts. I am completely certain I did not use any shouts. Same happened to Krug today.

Whatever, obviously you don't know what you're talking about.


Sure. Our guild is the only real horde guild there at azuregos and we absolutely did not use any exploits. That would be your faction.
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Re: To Smork the Hunter, shameless exploiter of Azuregos.

by Jaedan » Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:39 am

lindz wrote:
Jaedan wrote:Awe shes so nice ! Are there no single grills on fucking alliance? !


I could totes not be single for the right price...



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Re: To Smork the Hunter, shameless exploiter of Azuregos.

by actionpigeon » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:05 am

Stephanie wrote:One could argue any method of trying to tag the opposing faction when they clearly don't want to be flagged for pvp is exploitative, I know I personally learned the hard way that using aoe near a flagged person flags me for pvp. Trying to draw a line in the sand and saying these methods of tagging people are fine while these others are not seems irrelevant.

Plus the old Blizzard rules for a PVE server seem to state that interfering with a legitimately tagged outdoor raid boss was against teh rulez! (Though I'm somewhat confused why they mention level 1 characters?)

http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-general/2375146.htm

Edit: - layout


I've already discussed this with the officers in Deja Vu and they said that the rules of this server allow for a different approach and resetting raid bosses on the PvP server is apparently common place and as a result the quoted rules to not apply.

It mentions level 1 because of Kazzak.

On a personal note, having respected the tag of another guild for fear of getting suspended or banned on live for the exact reasons you've linked, I find it to be a more courteous for outdoor raid bosses rather than it devolving into a 3 hour random tag/kite fest mixed in with pvp tagging exploits and the subsequent pvp shitshow. Who the fuck ever worked this hard for a few random epics ever?
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Re: To Smork the Hunter, shameless exploiter of Azuregos.

by Ellmo » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:25 am

Jaedan wrote:
lindz wrote:
Jaedan wrote:Awe shes so nice ! Are there no single grills on fucking alliance? !


I could totes not be single for the right price...



Name it.... :D


I dont suppose your girlfriend knows about this ae ? you little weasel
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Re: To Smork the Hunter, shameless exploiter of Azuregos.

by XJ9 » Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:31 am

Was going to stay out of it but I figured it's worth pointing out a few things because I'm a petty human and these things eat away at me.

This thread in a nutshell:

Alliance who have on multiple accounts intentionally used exploits in contest for Azuregos regarding Battle Chickens, or the very few attempting to use Campfires because it worked on other emulated servers. Sure you can try to argue "We're doing it just jokingly." but I can promise you the number of people doing it for that purpose is far fewer than the people doing it to attempt to flag people.

Alliance last Sunday never won a skirmish with the Horde in the four or five hours I was out there. I walked out of that with 206 Honorable Kills, all of which were from Azshara as I did not do any BGs that/this week. Yet they were still attempting to use campfires and battle chickens. Oh and lets not forget their impressive pvp team that would attack the four players we left stationed at an area, only to be trampled and escape with 3-4 of their 10+ they had at that location.

Last Azuregos kill your kill was done by 1-2 people running away with the boss as you all DPS'd it. The fact we wiped most of your raid that was idiotically pvp flagged and you still downed the fight is a testament to how much your running trivialized the fight.


So given I've proven Alliance are not only inferior players who have no issue cheesing a fight to ignore the mechanics of it, I find it adorable how you're all trying to preach about how the Horde exploited. How does it even make sense? A situation that we all saw for the first time, yet we somehow knew it would happen? Are you real? If you want to talk about exploiting, look at the people with battle chickens flagging our players, or campfires in vain attempts to flag us.

Also I feel I should point out that exploit by definition implies knowledge of the result of the action. So for us to have exploited, we'd have had to know it would despawn the boss, yet we didn't. At most you can chalk this up to a learning experience for both factions of where the Azuregos limitations are. Nah an exploit is something like you knowing battle chickens would pvp flag people and using it. Then because it has worked in the past, you continue doing it. THAT is exploitation, you know the result and how to make it happen so you continue doing it even if it's clearly not intended.
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Re: To Smork the Hunter, shameless exploiter of Azuregos.

by Valden » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:33 am

The amount of Horde sweating in this thread over trying not to get banned is some of the funniest shit I've seen on these forums.

First you wipe on Azuregos without any assistance, then you succeed at despawning the boss and try to blame it at the alliance.

I can do nothing more but salute you at your utter, complete failure.
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