Unorthodox specs accepted?

[joshbpepper]

Ya jaja its cool. I just think people would be tired by now of 40/40 optimized raids.

[Orthodoxy]

And by optimized you mean raids that will kill something past BWL.

[joshbpepper]

Yea

[Judvar]

oomkin

I laughed so much

[Amelissan]

Well for days i was thinking about posting a topic just about this issue but fearing the incoming hate, i got discouraged..

I had an idea about a guild that letting oddballs / misfits in its raid group, i am not talking about a raid team that full of ''fun'' specs, but i really do believe that every single raid (maybe not naxx) can be completed with 30 out of 40 conventional specced characters and 10 oomkin, ret/prot pala , enh/ele shamm etc.

Considering the game is now 10 years old we can expect for such a player ( that a player know the responsibilities of playing a gimped toon and in the knowledge of he/she must go tryhard mode and farm twice more than its more accepted counterpart ) will be much more useful than a slacking geared pure class..at least much less annoying, and already studied his/her boss well.

I mean we all know or already experienced that among 40 ppl, there are always 5 to 10 ppl that are intentionally slow or geared with half of a brain. And still being carried by the rest of the team.

I know there will some ragings by the wanna-be-veterans '' durr! Vanilla is hardcore m'kay !!1!1!!? ''..

But face it and swallow it; Vanilla is far from being considered as a hard game..mechanics are mainly straight-forward; get out of of the fire, kill the adds, decurse/dispell, and of course MOAR DOTS! 9/10 bosses or encounters can be completed by monkeys even and the last boss of this era is known inside out by the players even there is a good 1 year before the release.

Also there is a human factor, call me naive but i believe that an oomkin or an enh sham will focus much more to the game than playing as a resto, and for sure will be having much more fun, thus less drama.

There is much more to be written but this post has already evolved into a wall thus ill cut it now.

tl;dr, I think server needs at least 1 guild for each faction raiding with space chickens shooting lasers 'n shit. You want a hard game? That's how you get a hard game.

ok.. you may crucify me now..

Side-note: No i have no interest on any of the before mentioned specs so this post does not serve ant selfish purposes.

[cascarrabias]

Will guilds accept these players? When does experience over ride optimization?

nope
PvE server dont mean "playeverything you want"server
so if you wanna play oomkin, enh shammy or cat dps - not sure that anyone will take you in their raid or even dungeon group

nope
PvE server dont mean "be as asshat as you want" server
so if you wanna be unfriendly, inmature or elitisticjerk to the point of ruining others people fun - not sure that anyone will take you in their guild, dungeon group or even a beer break.

[Bad Acid]

So, he's an unfriendly, immature, elitist jerk just because he wants his raid to be as good and efficient as possible? Wow.

If you want to raid with those unorthodox specs, make your own raids and/or guild. Nobody will fuck with you then.

[Battlepug]

In progression nobody should accept unoptimized, underperforming, undergeared participants. Why make your life harder, the end-game is already challenging enough grindfest. Sure, when a guild has content on farm it might be fine. But most serious guild will not give you a raiding spot.

[Mistral]

But until AQ40, the endgame is not very challenging for any veteran players.

[Mauda]

But until AQ40, the endgame is not very challenging for any veteran players.

And funny enough it's in AQ40 and Naxx the oddball specs starts to improve duo to better itemization and 16 slot debuffing.

That person higher up that considered making a guild... I really hope you will. I'll gladly join, even if I wont be playing an 'oddball' spec myself.