Unorthodox specs accepted?

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Re: Unorthodox specs accepted?

by aessina » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:15 pm

MasterQuaster wrote:
Pseudo pro rubish talk detected! You have never seen Naxx from inside but talk :) Great bro! You are a champ :)


Implying you'd cleared Naxx in retail vanilla. I sincerely doubt it.

Oh YES! What a horrible impact if I have another spec as you recomand me :) Maybe I gonna make just 1,5k dps instead of 1,6k WHAT A HORRIBLE IMPACT ON MY GROUP! SO SELFISH OF ME! Hope you gonna wipe cause somebody set another skill point than you recomand him :)

A properly built DD will SURELY have high dps. An unorthodox specced DD will have high dps ONLY if he invested much much effort in his gameplay.
So, as a pug RL, which one you gonna take?
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Re: Unorthodox specs accepted?

by MasterQuaster » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:17 pm

No the problem is... you think YOU are right... but you aren't. You are just egoistic and don't accept other opinions.

As I said, numbers don't lie! If the Unorthodox spec makes the same or maybe even higher dps, everybody gonna invite you. It's not even possible to check peoples spec in 1.12.1. It's just possible to check the dps and that's all what counts for raids as dd. Math don't lie, numbers don't lie.
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Re: Unorthodox specs accepted?

by lindz » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:17 pm

The problem often is that an application doesn't tell exactly how awesome you are. All the reader sees is a weirdo spec and likely a bunch of experience, but we all have that now. It is a big red mark against them right away. The better way to go about applying to a guild with an unconventional spec that you think you can rock, is to group with the recruitment officers first and *show* then how awesome you are.

If you're a feral that works your butt off to get bear, cat and healing gear and can play the class like a boss, then there is much more likely a place for you than a determined kitty druid that has mismatched gear and does as much damage as the holy priest tossing SWP on random mobs.
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Re: Unorthodox specs accepted?

by Serico » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:17 pm

If I'm not mistaken, there is no PvE set for an enh shaman. The set boni also tell you "you gotta be healing, mon" - I tried it on a 1.12 insta 60 fun server.
Only the PvP set seems to have some auto attacks in mind. Kinda odd for me that there is no specific set available for different specs, like I am used to from WoW. Maybe enh shamans are meant to be played in PvP. Just shows how I don't know what vanilla WoW was like.

I've never played any end game content of vanilla wow, because TBC came out when I was at level 40. And in TBC, enh shamans dealt a lot of damage in raids.
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Re: Unorthodox specs accepted?

by Battlepug » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:18 pm

Dont feed that troll MasterQuaster, its either that or all his posts on this forum are written by a child or a not a very bright person. Also, the argument is pointless - in progression, when everyone is 1.4 patch blue there is nothing to argue about. When you are geared enough and have a geared raid - go ahead and dps in bear form.
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Re: Unorthodox specs accepted?

by Orthodoxy » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:19 pm

aessina wrote:
MasterQuaster wrote:
Pseudo pro rubish talk detected! You have never seen Naxx from inside but talk :) Great bro! You are a champ :)


Implying you'd cleared Naxx in retail vanilla. I sincerely doubt it.

Oh YES! What a horrible impact if I have another spec as you recomand me :) Maybe I gonna make just 1,5k dps instead of 1,6k WHAT A HORRIBLE IMPACT ON MY GROUP! SO SELFISH OF ME! Hope you gonna wipe cause somebody set another skill point than you recomand him :)

A properly built DD will SURELY have high dps. An unorthodox specced DD will have high dps ONLY if he invested much much effort in his gameplay.
So, as a pug RL, which one you gonna take?


The gimped one obviously, we have to respect his/her individual right to subject the rest of us to w/e playstyle they want.
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Re: Unorthodox specs accepted?

by MasterQuaster » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:25 pm

Orthodoxy wrote:
aessina wrote:
MasterQuaster wrote:
Pseudo pro rubish talk detected! You have never seen Naxx from inside but talk :) Great bro! You are a champ :)


Implying you'd cleared Naxx in retail vanilla. I sincerely doubt it.

Oh YES! What a horrible impact if I have another spec as you recomand me :) Maybe I gonna make just 1,5k dps instead of 1,6k WHAT A HORRIBLE IMPACT ON MY GROUP! SO SELFISH OF ME! Hope you gonna wipe cause somebody set another skill point than you recomand him :)

A properly built DD will SURELY have high dps. An unorthodox specced DD will have high dps ONLY if he invested much much effort in his gameplay.
So, as a pug RL, which one you gonna take?


The gimped one obviously, we have to respect his/her individual right to subject the rest of us to w/e playstyle they want.


lol? rly? You don't accept other opinions, but I am the gimped cause I believe in numbers and math and not just on a pseudo pro's opinion? Sorry bro! Didn't know that you are god and all you say is the only truth!

We'll talk again if you have ever seen a Classic Raid from inside! Can't hear more of your pseudo pro Rubish. Up to then I have fun trolling all people in this thread! Kappa over and out.
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Re: Unorthodox specs accepted?

by Lemore » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:45 pm

MasterQuaster wrote:I believe in numbers and math


Then you'll also know that out of two people with equal skill and gear level, the person with the better spec will perform better in raids.
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Re: Unorthodox specs accepted?

by MasterQuaster » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:57 pm

It's very likely that most of the people gonna perform better in raids with the recommended specc, yes. But it's not impossible that a unorthodox spec makes nearly or maybe even better dps than the recommanded if the player have much training with that spec.

How ever you are right, normaly the recommended specc do some more damage. But that wouldn't be a reason to except a player from a raid if his dps is nearly as high as the others.
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Re: Unorthodox specs accepted?

by Bad Acid » Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:58 pm

MasterQuaster wrote:
Orthodoxy wrote:We'll talk again if you have ever seen a Classic Raid from inside! Can't hear more of your pseudo pro Rubish. Up to then I have fun trolling all people in this thread! Kappa over and out.


Holy shit aren't you obnoxious. You sound like you learned the word pseudo 1 day ago, using it in every single post of yours. Are you sure you aren't trying to sound "pseudo"intellectual? Top kek bro.

Also, there's a clear difference between trolling and being an idiot.
You are arguing about wether a guild should accept an overgeared unorthodox specced player or an undergeared optimal spec player (based on your arguement). Man that's not even a topic of this thread, it's about somewhat equally skilled/geared players when one has optimal build and the other one doesn't. Ofc a naxx geared feral druid would outdps a preraid geared rogue, but when do you even see that situation being relevant?

If you want to troll, atleast try being creative. People nowadays use the world trolling as an excuse for their stupidity and it's just annoying.
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