Nostalrius should do something

[ssishtar]

Blizzar are masters at stalling things. And sadly, they will never open Legacy servers, not now, not in 3 years, not even in 10. The reason is simple, once they do this, their playerbase will start to spread, some in Vanilla, some in BC, some in Wotlk and so on. This means once they would open Legacy, there would be too few players on the live-retail, to actually worth future expansions development and the game will... well... die. They can't risk it, at least unless the subrcribers numbers won't fall it REALLY bad.

What to expect then ? The biggest change they might announce is at best the crappy Pristine thingie, mening on some servers they will allow people to cap to 60 or 70 or etc and allow only that specific content, be it Vanilla, BC or higher. Blizzard's plan is/was/will be always the concept called "Carrot on a Stick", meaning they will do anything possible to lure people (read lie) into believing that they are listening and they have a plan.

Actually, they do have a plan, and the plan is to stall, telling once in a while the community that they are STILL thinking about it. But think about it yourselves, what's there... to think, really ? Think about what, they have all the data needed, all the infrastructure, all the programming power, original code, everything. I bet they could open 2-3 vanilla servers in tops 24hours if they would really want it. Their programmers anyway are payed and hired and ready to do whatever the chiefs dream about.

So think about it, they closed Nostalrius and did absolutely nothing after, no matter how hard we pushed with our petitions, with out cries, with our everythings. And now, they just made a statement, almost 1 year later, that "they are still thinking about it". We both know what this means, aye ? So what to do ?

Pray for Nostalrius' return, really. Pray with all your power, ask them to do something, support them, make them understand they are basically the only people in this fucking galaxy who can actually deliver what we need. No contest about it, just look at Kronos, Elysium and other servers, they don't even come close. I logged today on Kronos to see that I can't land a bloody cheapshot cause of insane lag, they had lag 2 months ago too, they were shut down by dunno what ddos crap, it's obvious that such project is a hat way too big for their heads.

TLDR: It's gonna be Nostalrius or nothing at all.

[vanillaplayer2016]

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[Zulbiken]

I disagree with some of your points about how Blizzard CAN'T release legacy servers. They could manage to release two vanilla servers that aren't on the Battle.net launcher (much like how you can still buy Warcraft III on their "classic game" list.

These two servers could be put on the classic games list and would need no advertisement and very little moderators. It could happen.

However, your points are valid and obviously Blizzard is not releasing legacy servers. I agree it's Nost or nothing.

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[ssishtar]

I disagree with some of your points about how Blizzard CAN'T release legacy servers. They could manage to release two vanilla servers that aren't on the Battle.net launcher (much like how you can still buy Warcraft III on their "classic game" list.

These two servers could be put on the classic games list and would need no advertisement and very little moderators. It could happen.

However, your points are valid and obviously Blizzard is not releasing legacy servers. I agree it's Nost or nothing.

Thing is, if Blizzard would open Legacy servers, tons of people would go check it, streams would explode next day with ganking, e-peen showing, usuall stuff. No biggie so far, but there WILL BE tons of Legion players attracted too, by their friends, by curiosity etc. Some of the guys that will try Vanilla obviously gonna get addicted to it, like we were, that's a fact, this game indeed is this good.

So far so good, but logic dictates that this "new community" that will populate vanilla servers will eventually get bored of the 3 tiers content and for sure they won't jump all into the Burning Crusade wagon, sooner or later they will demand new content for the old vanilla. You know what this means: new raids, new 5 men, new shit. Blizzard has a hard time creating content for Legion, so if you mulitiply the demand of content for 2-3-4 different versions of WoW, they will go nuts. Not counting the infinite issues regarding the lore, everyone knew that after Naxxramas Fall, the "adventurers" went Outland...

My point is, there are tons of issues that will appear once official legacy servers will appear. Yes, it's doable, but you know Blizzard too, they are too avid after irl gold to simply risk their milk cow just for the sake of it, for the love of the game.

If you ask me, Blizzard knows from years ago the sad truth that every single expansion they made is not on par with vanilla. They aknowledged this, swallowed their pride and continued to force-feeding their expansions to their customers, stating it's the best thing ever.

But the point remains, they will not open Legacy servers. Never, ever, ever, ever, unless WoW will die for good. And observing the retardness the retail servers sport (you need only to look at their threads, the community demands, etc), this won't come anytime soon.

Point remains, Nostalrius is the only one who can help on this, but the insane amount of silence regarding their plans, is troubling really. What's this "you will hear from us after Blizzcon". Why ? They aren't tied in anyway with Blizzcon, what a bazooka can have in common with a chicken fillet ?! Why they don't state their plans now, why they need Blizzcon to pass first !?

It smells fishy...

[Undertanker]

Even after being apart of a guild that pushed through AQ on Kronos, I am done there.

Biggest reason:

Nost nightly back-ups used to be at 04:00 server and inconvenienced the late night US player-base, especially the Last Night EST / West Coast raiding guilds such as <Thundercats>.

We kindly stated our concerns to the admin team of this issue, and proved that no other active raiding guild for EU / Oceanic would be effected if this was pushed back further. After review, the agreed and changed the nightly disk backup to better suit their player base.

We ran into the exact same issue on Kronos and not just it backing up, but resetting the raids at Midnight EST. A huge issue for late night raiders. Their admin and development team saw out pleas/request/and we provided substantial evidence of no guilds over the past month even raiding during the times we requested the resets for. They gave us a big Middle Finger.

While I can no longer play NA times and will be playing EU times, the admins show they care about their players on Nost.

[Echodox]

Point remains, Nostalrius is the only one who can help on this, but the insane amount of silence regarding their plans, is troubling really. What's this "you will hear from us after Blizzcon". Why ? They aren't tied in anyway with Blizzcon, what a bazooka can have in common with a chicken fillet ?! Why they don't state their plans now, why they need Blizzcon to pass first !?

It smells fishy...

Nost wants it to be Blizzards "fault" if they have to re-open. They don't wanna appear arrogant and just release instantly because Blizz won't announce "until after" Blizzcon. Remember the Nost teams goal is to get official legacy servers.
They had hoped that Blizzard would announce on Blizzcon, which Blizzard has now stated they won't, and that it will have to be afterwards. Nost team is not stupid, they know now that Blizzard will try to postpone dealing with this for as long as possible, which is why they now say "if you don't talk to us after Blizzcon ends, we start up our server again".

I don't think there is anything fishy in that. The fishy part will start if Blizzcon ends and the forum announcements are silent a month after. But i highly doubt that will happen, as people here will see it as betrayal, and Nost team knows that.

[Lokrosh]

It's getting to the point where i'm dreaming about Nostalrius reopening. I just want to play my favourite game