IMO ..

[Hydra9268]

All of you are justing setting yourself up for disappointment. Just wait...

[Fayz1]

I have to agree with Hydra9268. This is a community demand, not them building anything. So if they want to make their community satisfied they will have to listen to it very very carefully in order to not fck this up.

[mozibake]

My thoughts are several:

- I don't really have an issue with purely cosmetic items being sold in some kind of cash shop for meatspace gold. I personally wouldn't pay real money for e.g. tabards or pets but it doesn't particularly bother me that some people would. I *would* have an issue with gear, consumables/reagents, in-game money or anything else that offers a gameplay advantage being available in a cash shop for real money.

- I also wouldn't have an issue if certain "quality of life" features added mainly during TBC, like the improved character stats interface with the ability to natively see spell crit chance, total spellpower, etc, or expanded macro functionality like /equip, /stopcasting, /cancelaura, [mod=x] etc were backported in. LFR and cross realm BGs/raids and other Catashit are pure cancer and should go and stay gone.

- What will they do when all the autists who've spent the last 11 years playing private servers clearing the same vanilla content over and over and over again have downed Kel'Thuzad, gotten their HWL/GM shit, and hit the gold cap with a bank full of black lotuses within 6 months and start unsubbing? The temptation to add new content would be very high at that point. Unlike most people here I wouldn't be incorrigibly opposed to new raid content or something, if they could do it right and keep it in the "vanilla spirit", sort of like how 2007scape still occasionally gets updates but more or less sticks to Runescape as it was 9 years ago. Unfortunately, I don't trust current Actiblizz to keep anything within the "vanilla spirit" since most of the guys who created that atmosphere in the first place are long gone. So if they're just going to fuck it up I'd rather them not add anything anyway.

- I wouldn't have an issue if certain updated graphics were backported in (new Org looks like shit tho, leave the old one the way it is). I don't feel like a simple graphical update would change what makes vanilla "vanilla", which is, imo, the content, the community, and the relative lack of "modern" MMO features. Although I play female Undead and I can't wear a tabard without it clipping through my ass with every step my character takes so it's possible my opinion is biased on this.

Exfoliate your onions.

[Dr. Doom]

My thoughts are several:

- I don't really have an issue with purely cosmetic items being sold in some kind of cash shop for meatspace gold. I personally wouldn't pay real money for e.g. tabards or pets but it doesn't particularly bother me that some people would. I *would* have an issue with gear, consumables/reagents, in-game money or anything else that offers a gameplay advantage being available in a cash shop for real money.

- I also wouldn't have an issue if certain "quality of life" features added mainly during TBC, like the improved character stats interface with the ability to natively see spell crit chance, total spellpower, etc, or expanded macro functionality like /equip, /stopcasting, /cancelaura, [mod=x] etc were backported in. LFR and cross realm BGs/raids and other Catashit are pure cancer and should go and stay gone.

- What will they do when all the autists who've spent the last 11 years playing private servers clearing the same vanilla content over and over and over again have downed Kel'Thuzad, gotten their HWL/GM shit, and hit the gold cap with a bank full of black lotuses within 6 months and start unsubbing? The temptation to add new content would be very high at that point. Unlike most people here I wouldn't be incorrigibly opposed to new raid content or something, if they could do it right and keep it in the "vanilla spirit", sort of like how 2007scape still occasionally gets updates but more or less sticks to Runescape as it was 9 years ago. Unfortunately, I don't trust current Actiblizz to keep anything within the "vanilla spirit" since most of the guys who created that atmosphere in the first place are long gone. So if they're just going to fuck it up I'd rather them not add anything anyway.

- I wouldn't have an issue if certain updated graphics were backported in (new Org looks like shit tho, leave the old one the way it is). I don't feel like a simple graphical update would change what makes vanilla "vanilla", which is, imo, the content, the community, and the relative lack of "modern" MMO features. Although I play female Undead and I can't wear a tabard without it clipping through my ass with every step my character takes so it's possible my opinion is biased on this.

Exfoliate your onions.

Think I agree entirely with cha, as usual mozi.

[Xaverius]

I don't think they would do that, because it would create an instant uproar, it would almost be like not having vanilla servers to begin with, would be like pissing all over the legacy.

But that's exactly what Bli$$ard is getting increasingly good at!

[Lokrosh]

My thoughts are several:

- I don't really have an issue with purely cosmetic items being sold in some kind of cash shop for meatspace gold. I personally wouldn't pay real money for e.g. tabards or pets but it doesn't particularly bother me that some people would. I *would* have an issue with gear, consumables/reagents, in-game money or anything else that offers a gameplay advantage being available in a cash shop for real money.

- I also wouldn't have an issue if certain "quality of life" features added mainly during TBC, like the improved character stats interface with the ability to natively see spell crit chance, total spellpower, etc, or expanded macro functionality like /equip, /stopcasting, /cancelaura, [mod=x] etc were backported in. LFR and cross realm BGs/raids and other Catashit are pure cancer and should go and stay gone.

- What will they do when all the autists who've spent the last 11 years playing private servers clearing the same vanilla content over and over and over again have downed Kel'Thuzad, gotten their HWL/GM shit, and hit the gold cap with a bank full of black lotuses within 6 months and start unsubbing? The temptation to add new content would be very high at that point. Unlike most people here I wouldn't be incorrigibly opposed to new raid content or something, if they could do it right and keep it in the "vanilla spirit", sort of like how 2007scape still occasionally gets updates but more or less sticks to Runescape as it was 9 years ago. Unfortunately, I don't trust current Actiblizz to keep anything within the "vanilla spirit" since most of the guys who created that atmosphere in the first place are long gone. So if they're just going to fuck it up I'd rather them not add anything anyway.

- I wouldn't have an issue if certain updated graphics were backported in (new Org looks like shit tho, leave the old one the way it is). I don't feel like a simple graphical update would change what makes vanilla "vanilla", which is, imo, the content, the community, and the relative lack of "modern" MMO features. Although I play female Undead and I can't wear a tabard without it clipping through my ass with every step my character takes so it's possible my opinion is biased on this.

Exfoliate your onions.

I especially like your idea of new vanilla content. Now that got me all tingly inside.

[Norjak]

After giving it some more thought, I don't think they would change much besides adding pets & vanity items somehow.
My reasoning is that the Devs think Vanilla is a steaming pile, hence J Allen Brack's snide comments a couple years ago at Blizzcon. If fans ask for it back, it will likely be a marketing decision. Without knowing many details of how Blizzard's internal organization works, I'd say it's likely the devs wouldn't want to touch it with a 10 foot pole unless they are forced to by someone. The Marketing people will want to find ways to entice casual players to spend more money - I'm thinking of stuff like pets, maybe actual gold (always in high demand in a hard-core game like Vanilla) or other vanity items.

[melak]

changing basically anything makes it not vanilla, so heres hoping that integrity wins over greed for once...