Dont open fresh server at frist,please!!!!!!

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Re: Dont open fresh server at frist,please!!!!!!

by amplarus » Tue Nov 08, 2016 5:13 pm

line4 wrote:
amplarus wrote:if you are really serious with this, no matter if fresh start released 2 months after the old realm, the old realm would stop getting new players anyway..


Correct. Unless the servers are perceived as "equal" among the playerbase (for example: with 1 PvE server, 1 PvP server, both of them offer reasons to create a new character regardless of whether the player is new or not, because they offer different rulesets), the "old" server will always end up with a dwindling population.


there is also possibility that after those 2 months of wait, it is the old realm who could come out of it with 8000-10000 players, and the fresh realm with 500-1000 players
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Re: Dont open fresh server at frist,please!!!!!!

by phyriel » Tue Nov 08, 2016 5:22 pm

Ourk wrote:
amplarus wrote: whats the problem with both communities starting alongside each other?


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The problem is that the Nost PvP server will be sentenced as soon as the fresh PvP server will be launched because the fresh server will attract every new player (I see no reason for a new player to start on the old server, exactly as in the K1 and K2 case; i can't see a different mechanism).

And with zero new players influx, any server is going to die.



Dude thats not true, there are "NEW" players and "NEW" players. There are new players that indeed want to start on fresh server because a) they want to progress in mc ony and bwl and not get boosted thru it b) they want to be special snowflake without working too much c) they enjoy lag and fighting for mobs :P but there are also new people that didn't play Nost before at all but overfarmed mc ony and bwl on other servers so they are more interested in going aq40 and naxx40. Please don't make up stuff that is just a lie
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Re: Dont open fresh server at frist,please!!!!!!

by phyriel » Tue Nov 08, 2016 5:26 pm

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amplarus wrote:why should the old realm die if people who seek to play their lost characters are true to their word?


Because of the lack of new players. Do you really not understand what's needed to sustain the health of an MMO server's population all throughout the gameworld?


In wow? As I recall blizz official servers in vanilla times had like 2-3k online + queue for more popular realms. That means Nost had 5times that. Stop being stupid already.
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Re: Dont open fresh server at frist,please!!!!!!

by Lifealert » Tue Nov 08, 2016 5:27 pm

Sadly they're gonna do it no matter what...
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Re: Dont open fresh server at frist,please!!!!!!

by phyriel » Tue Nov 08, 2016 5:28 pm

Lifealert wrote:Sadly they're gonna do it no matter what...


Why sadly ffs... you people are such a drama queens its unbelievable.
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Re: Dont open fresh server at frist,please!!!!!!

by Lifealert » Tue Nov 08, 2016 5:45 pm

Because it would be better to be united considering it is unlikely the large population we once had will not come back. Even if the server with the old character data were to be stable there would be nobody making new characters and the server would eventually die because of this.
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Re: Dont open fresh server at frist,please!!!!!!

by phyriel » Tue Nov 08, 2016 5:47 pm

Lifealert wrote:Because it would be better to be united considering it is unlikely the large population we once had will not come back. Even if the server with the old character data were to be stable there would be nobody making new characters and the server would eventually die because of this.


Ima repost what I posted like 2 posts ago... read it this time... mkay? mkay.

There are "NEW" players and "NEW" players. There are new players that indeed want to start on fresh server because a) they want to progress in mc ony and bwl and not get boosted thru it b) they want to be special snowflake without working too much c) they enjoy lag and fighting for mobs :P but there are also new people that didn't play Nost before at all but overfarmed mc ony and bwl on other servers so they are more interested in going aq40 and naxx40. This alone suggest that both servers offer a place for influx of new players. It just depends on players expectations toward content ready for them at launch.

server would eventually die because of this


Server will eventually die anyway... once majority of server is full t3 it begins to die down.
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Re: Dont open fresh server at frist,please!!!!!!

by Lifealert » Tue Nov 08, 2016 5:53 pm

We'll see what happens because this is all speculation. But I'm certain nobody is going to make new characters on the old character server for the first several months because there is absolutely no incentive to do so when you can play on a server that has a bigger pool of leveling players. A bigger pool of leveling players = easier leveling because you will be able to find groups for those dungeons that are harder to get groups for like Sunken Temple, mara, BFD, and uldaman. A already meager population on a server plus the fact that nobody will make new characters means you will have an ever dwindling population and eventually a dead server. I could be fully wrong, but this is how I see it playing out.

And as for the last point you just edited in... really? Do you REALLY think Naxx will come out anytime soon? They couldn't deliver AQ40 on time....
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Re: Dont open fresh server at frist,please!!!!!!

by Arucado » Tue Nov 08, 2016 5:58 pm

enough with this shit pls
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Re: Dont open fresh server at frist,please!!!!!!

by Noxm » Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:09 pm

Ourk wrote:
amplarus wrote: whats the problem with both communities starting alongside each other?


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The problem is that the Nost PvP server will be sentenced as soon as the fresh PvP server will be launched because the fresh server will attract every new player (I see no reason for a new player to start on the old server, exactly as in the K1 and K2 case; i can't see a different mechanism).
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Hey Ourk,

Why do you compare nostalrius with kronos situation ? Nostalrius have 800k old account !
No point to compare nostalrius situation with K1 K2.

My prediction if they managed to do it correctly

First week :
Nostalrius PVP + Elysium PVP : 7k average player online
Fresh start : 10k ppl online = crash server

Second week : Nostalrius PVP + Elysium PVP : 10k average player online
Fresh start : 10k+ ppl online = crash server

just pray Nostalrius made the clustring system !

When nostalrius released its was 2-3k ppl on start and its was just a fucking mess :) PPL on fresh start dont gonna survive to this and will maybe give up to roll on the nostalrius old pvp server
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