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Re: Friendly suggestions for your future meeting with Blizza

by Syleynna » Fri May 06, 2016 1:46 am

Forcerius wrote: How many free to play online games to you know of? How many free vanilla wow private servers do you know of? How much money does Blizzard make in a month with millions of subscribers along with all other revenue? How did Nostalrius run for free for years? Blizzard can't do it? Or won't? The least they could do is give us a free private legacy server. I'm not going to beg them for an old game that's good but overvalued because of nostalgia and the this over romanticized "revolution". If Blizzard won't host a true free vanilla server and a new private server doesn't appear then i'll simply refuse to play or do something else. Seriously, the more energy I invest into this the more it makes me realize how mediocre wow actually is and how much time i'm wasting on these forums. And if Nostalrius was supported by donations then Blizzard can do the same.



Stop wasting your energy if it isn't what you want, no one asked you to if your energy is so much more precious then everyone elses.

And to answer this question "How many free to play online games to [sic] you know of?"

None, because they all suck! Even WoD and Legions will prolly suck too, and surpisingly people pay for that.

I don't know of any free Blizzlike/no pay to win private servers, or servers that don't take donations. Please point me in the direction of one. I will be the person donating because I don't believe in leeching off of peoples good will and know that nothing is ever completely free. (now I'm being condescending. learn the difference :mrgreen: :lol: :lol: :lol: )
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Re: Friendly suggestions for your future meeting with Blizza

by Forcerius » Fri May 06, 2016 1:53 am

EyeOfTruth wrote:I only live for you Forcerius

Otherwise why would I live?


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Re: Friendly suggestions for your future meeting with Blizza

by Forcerius » Fri May 06, 2016 1:57 am

Syleynna wrote:
Forcerius wrote: How many free to play online games to you know of? How many free vanilla wow private servers do you know of? How much money does Blizzard make in a month with millions of subscribers along with all other revenue? How did Nostalrius run for free for years? Blizzard can't do it? Or won't? The least they could do is give us a free private legacy server. I'm not going to beg them for an old game that's good but overvalued because of nostalgia and the this over romanticized "revolution". If Blizzard won't host a true free vanilla server and a new private server doesn't appear then i'll simply refuse to play or do something else. Seriously, the more energy I invest into this the more it makes me realize how mediocre wow actually is and how much time i'm wasting on these forums. And if Nostalrius was supported by donations then Blizzard can do the same.



Stop wasting your energy if it isn't what you want, no one asked you to if your energy is so much more precious then everyone elses.

And to answer this question "How many free to play online games to [sic] you know of?"

None, because they all suck! Even WoD and Legions will prolly suck too, and surpisingly people pay for that.

I don't know of any free Blizzlike/no pay to win private servers, or servers that don't take donations. Please point me in the direction of one. I will be the person donating because I don't believe in leeching off of peoples good will and know that nothing is ever completely free. (now I'm being condescending. learn the difference :mrgreen: :lol: :lol: :lol: )


League of Legends is the top game on Twitch with 70,000 viewers on average. Its free to play. Your argument is null. Lmao.
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Re: Friendly suggestions for your future meeting with Blizza

by Peacebringer » Fri May 06, 2016 8:32 am

@ Syleynna
No need to comment your arguments, Forcerius took words from my mouth :)

@ Forcerius
I've totally forgot about League of Legends (LoL), good point you've got there.
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Re: Friendly suggestions for your future meeting with Blizza

by Tinkertown » Fri May 06, 2016 9:58 am

LoL isn't free. You have to pay to unlock stuff that actually affects gameplay. And no unlocking through (excessive) playing or waiting doesn't make it 'free'. It is arguably a lot worse than 'buy a lvl 100' since you cannot unlock everything in LoL in the time it takes to ding 100.

If you had all champions from the start or couldn't buy them and it was all skins then I'd agree with it.

I don't want any of that shit on the legacy realms. And that means financing through a subscription of some sort. Either separate from or bundled with retail. If some of you don't wanna pay for it, fine. Bye.
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Re: Friendly suggestions for your future meeting with Blizza

by Katho » Fri May 06, 2016 10:30 am

Tinkertown wrote:LoL isn't free. You have to pay to unlock stuff that actually affects gameplay. And no unlocking through (excessive) playing or waiting doesn't make it 'free'. It is arguably a lot worse than 'buy a lvl 100' since you cannot unlock everything in LoL in the time it takes to ding 100.

If you had all champions from the start or couldn't buy them and it was all skins then I'd agree with it.

I don't want any of that shit on the legacy realms. And that means financing through a subscription of some sort. Either separate from or bundled with retail. If some of you don't wanna pay for it, fine. Bye.

Skins are fancy stuff. Champions and runes can either be bought by money or by IP (ingame earned points). So it's totally free. It's called grinding and earning. Or you can, yes, spend money and buy them the easy way. But the Game itself is totally free, and you can't argue with that.
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Re: Friendly suggestions for your future meeting with Blizza

by Peacebringer » Fri May 06, 2016 10:34 am

@ Tinkertown
When LoL was mentioned I thought only in that part where you can buy cosmetic things and not something that would affect your gameplay because every monthly fee is better than some online cash shop where you can buy some things that are not cosmetic by nature. That's why Guild Wars 2 is better example but Katho is right, you can buy champions with money but also you can get them simple by playing the game and these champions don't give you some special advantage over other players but only a variation. And don't forget that Blizzard could also make that we need to buy always latest expansion in order to play on legacy realms and that would be great for Blizzard because the future of WoW would be more ensured.
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Re: Friendly suggestions for your future meeting with Blizza

by huylv » Fri May 06, 2016 12:30 pm

Syleynna wrote:Peacebringer I am going to try to explain why people are getting so upset, and I hope it makes some sense to you.

We are in the middle of a revolution .. we want legacy servers, we are all backing it and signing petitions and begging Blizzard to please bring back the fun. Blizzard has been of the opinion that it's not going to happen and it's not worth their time and the players really don't want to pay for it so there is no real demand. They think we just play private servers because they are free and no other reason.

We are trying to get Blizzard to see that no, we do not play private servers because they are free, we play them because we want to play Vanilla content (and TBC, Wolk, w/e your preference). So now they are paying attention to us .. yes we finally got them to notice that we desire this and will do whatever it takes to get this going and we will support them 100% to give us our legacy servers with original Blizzlike progression and no pay to win crap or online store. Just clean beautiful legacy servers that made this game great. This is the reason Nost was so popular and did what other private services could not do. They kept the game true to its original version. Many of us supported Nostalrius financially by donating to keep their servers up, so yes we do think this OLD game exactly how is was in 2004 is worth our money.

Then here comes Peacebringer saying .. well we want it, but we don't want to pay for it because it's old content, etc. etc.

What do you think Blizzard's reaction would be if we all started saying that? They would say well fine ... if you don't want to pay for our time and efforts, well then we won't even bother with Legacy servers because obviously you don't want to support them financially. I'm not sure if you understand that they will have to pay employees who are on the legacy team, and all the overhead that goes with running a company (hardware, software, coffee) even if no one pays a subscription fee, that overhead still needs to be paid. But it seems you have the view that these things don't have a cost and people should not get paid for their time because it's an old game.

So yeah .. people are angry with you because you are giving Blizzard ammunition to argue against Legacy servers. Why should they even bother because if everyone thought like you, then it just isn't worth their time to focus on Legacy server. Do you really think a one time payment will suffice? What should they do after the money runs out with the one time payment from everyone? Just shut down the server again because no one will mind losing all their 60s again.

It really stinks that people do not understand this simple concept. I'm trying to figure out if you are a troll or just really naive and don't understand that Blizzard is 100% financially motivated. They are a corporation, they answer to their stockholders, have employees, have overhead.

You can have your opinions, but when Blizzard says sorry no new servers because there is no real interest to support Legacy servers, well that will be on you and other people who feel that Blizzard owes us because we already paid for the game and its OLD.

You (and all with your opinion) will have to live with the knowledge that your voices were louder than ours and you got your way and now there are no Legacy servers.


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Re: Friendly suggestions for your future meeting with Blizza

by Peacebringer » Fri May 06, 2016 12:36 pm

But Trump would not lol :D sry for off topic :)
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Re: Friendly suggestions for your future meeting with Blizza

by EyeOfTruth » Fri May 06, 2016 12:46 pm

Trust me, Trump respects the power of money

He will want monthly paid Legacy servers. He is conservative, past is his political business.

Let's make wow great again! Not paying for something what deserves to be paid is communist agenda in purest form. Are you a communist?
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