WoW Mentality

[Killstick]

You know. i've noticed that everyone is after personal gain..either getting gold or gear or farming honor to get gear etc...

Stopped reading there; your personal gain is being this warchief guy who reinvents world PvP. You want social standing on the realm. Its not because you cannot express that in a number that it isn't somehow a personal gain.

[Simonich]

You know. i've noticed that everyone is after personal gain..either getting gold or gear or farming honor to get gear etc...

Stopped reading there; your personal gain is being this warchief guy who reinvents world PvP. You want social standing on the realm. Its not because you cannot express that in a number that it isn't somehow a personal gain.

But the point is, i cant express it with a number indeed, its not depended on stuff the game has, like gear. But more dependent on the player-base itself.

Your post is kinda tricky, almost everyone would enjoy social standing, but if im after it, im doing it through adding to the community, rather sitting in rank 14 gear showing how many hours i grinded some instances.

Instances man. I would give a bravo to a rank 14 guy if battlegrounds didnt exist.

[paradopx]

It is basically all MMO's in general. The best of them are way in the past. I only hope with VR on the horizon we can all experience that exploration nostalgia feeling of being immersed in a world again. Being an adult now I see that only existing in a finely crafted 'mandatory VR' experience. Nothing else will even come close, MMO's have devolved into a mini-game collections, rather then a world experience.

[Dr. Doom]

You know. i've noticed that everyone is after personal gain..either getting gold or gear or farming honor to get gear etc...

Stopped reading there; your personal gain is being this warchief guy who reinvents world PvP. You want social standing on the realm. Its not because you cannot express that in a number that it isn't somehow a personal gain.

But the point is, i cant express it with a number indeed, its not depended on stuff the game has, like gear. But more dependent on the player-base itself.

Your post is kinda tricky, almost everyone would enjoy social standing, but if im after it, im doing it through adding to the community, rather sitting in rank 14 gear showing how many hours i grinded some instances.

Instances man. I would give a bravo to a rank 14 guy if battlegrounds didnt exist.

Because ganking dummies in greens while they fight mobs on top of them is more laudable than fighting PvP specced players in high tier gear who are prepared and ready to fight?

[karndogg]

Because ganking dummies in greens while they fight mobs on top of them is more laudable than fighting PvP specced players in high tier gear who are prepared and ready to fight?

its not about being skilled, its about killing everyone on the other faction so much they quit the game and the server dies because of it. go play an actual video game if you want skill

[Dr. Doom]

Because ganking dummies in greens while they fight mobs on top of them is more laudable than fighting PvP specced players in high tier gear who are prepared and ready to fight?

its not about being skilled, its about killing everyone on the other faction so much they quit the game and the server dies because of it. go play an actual video game if you want skill

Ha Ha. I laughed.

Not really.

[Simonich]

Dr.Doom, we're not here to show off our skill or achieve bragging rights, we (my guild mates) want to claim the joy of fighting for the horde in numbered invasions. We dont kill to show our skill, we kill because we fight the opposed faction, let that be lvl 53 guys questing or lvl 60 in full epix, we fight our opponents.

Personally, i try to head to victory as much as i can, while not tryharding too much so i can actually enjoy it, and i dont care if my guildie is in greens, i dont want them to grind for months just to increase chances of winning a battle, the outcome doesnt matter as much as long as the fight was glorious and fun.

I dont know why you have to be sarcastic along with invalid sentences. It's poisonous.

[Dr. Doom]

Dr.Doom, we're not here to show off our skill or achieve bragging rights, we (my guild mates) want to claim the joy of fighting for the horde in numbered invasions. We dont kill to show our skill, we kill because we fight the opposed faction, let that be lvl 53 guys questing or lvl 60 in full epix, we fight our opponents.

Personally, i try to head to victory as much as i can, while not tryharding too much so i can actually enjoy it, and i dont care if my guildie is in greens, i dont want them to grind for months just to increase chances of winning a battle, the outcome doesnt matter as much as long as the fight was glorious and fun.

I dont know why you have to be sarcastic along with invalid sentences. It's poisonous.

I get that, but I also don't you see why you have to deride battleground PvP. Granted, it has less of an immersive feeling if you will, but what it does have is a much more competitive nature (which on the downside leads to nasty business like wintrading).

I am battleground PvPer, I will also do occasionally world pvp, we'ver personally fought a few times and it's been fun I agree. But if you say "I would only find praise in a r14 guy if it's only world pvp" , I also have to point that wpvp has another facet to it, meaning you're usually not fighting people in even numbers, and very often they're not prepared.

[Killstick]

And BGs do have a bit of lore to them do they not? Its not like you are fighting in an arena without setting.

Did you participate in the green dragon PvP?

[Simonich]

Well, this here is just a matter of personal preference, i would indeed see more value on someone having r14 in a place of no battlegrounds, and i love the open world combat which can take place in any spot all over azeroth, whereas its not fair, but its not meant to be fair, the many will beat those few, the. Those few will be come many, and take revenge, and it goes on with endless conflict popping everywhere.

Thats just me though, i enjoyed battlegrounds for quite awhile, i used to lead premades of randoms, i still have those memories which were quite nice, where we fought people slightly above our lvl and beat them through superior teamwork and tactics in arathi basin, indeed moments of thrill. But quickly got repetitive and boring for me since its instanced, and the same place.

There is endless potentional scenarios of warcraft out there in azeroth, which unfortunately do not happen cause of how instances are rewarding, compared to the open world.