Your class and opponent class difficulty scaling

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Re: Your class and opponent class difficulty scaling

by Alyndra » Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:24 pm

Lifealert wrote:
This is a weird list for a warlock. Should go like this (hardest to easiest):


i fully agree with this list although i would put shamans below mages, because they can't be undead.

as holy priest

warrior
rogue
shaman
hunter
spriest

druid
paladin

mage

as shadow

shaman
ud spriest
hunter

warlock
mage
ud rogue
druid
paladin
holy priest

rogue
warrior
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Re: Your class and opponent class difficulty scaling

by Dr. Doom » Sun Apr 03, 2016 3:20 pm

Tamanous wrote:Very true but hunter I find is the most extreme of any class in game. No other class requires such mastery of kiting and movement and no other class I experienced required such a deep understanding of macro making in order to make the class work. So many people joke about Huntards but in my opinion (after playing all classes to end game pvp other than warrior and priest) they are actually the most complex class to master in all areas in the game. They allow the most strategic construction of macro play in the game. The creates an extreme gap in knowledge between those that suck and those that are great.


Agreed, and I don't really play hunter that much, only my level 19 wsg guy.
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Re: Your class and opponent class difficulty scaling

by Kuri » Sun Apr 03, 2016 4:15 pm

Dr. Doom wrote:Side note. Of all the classes, the one that has the biggest difference between low skill and high skill is hunter.

Skill obviously does show in the others don't get me wrong, but for what matters, a warlock can always coil, fear and dot. A mage can always nova-blink. Etc.

But with hunters, the difference is worlds apart. PvE backpeddler hunters who only ever learnt to send in their pet and shoot while soloing, or who are only brought to their raids to push their tranquility shot button and do their aimed shot/autoshot thing, are utterly pathetic to duel. Just an exercise of staying on top of them as a warrior till they drop dead.

A skilled PvP hunter is a total pain, and once matched with enough gear, it'll be pretty hard to ever pull a win unless crits and a lucky resist on freezing trap are on your side.

And I saw this first hand. One of my former guildies, now part of a raiding guild, lost vs me whenever we dueled. I think I lost 1 duel vs him of the 10 or so we did. Unsurprisingly he never did bgs, he just rambled about BiS gear and raids.

Another of my guildies queued with me consistently when I was still ranking. After he added most engi trinkets to his arsenal ( I don't have it on my warrior), good timing of wing clip/trinket my hamstring, perfect swapping between FD/trap and scatter, it was pretty rough to ever beat him.

Can confirm as the PvE hunter in question that hunters are generally very unskilled in PvP. The same is true for PvE too. Most hunters only use aimed shot and crap their pants when someone stands on top of them.
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Re: Your class and opponent class difficulty scaling

by Lifealert » Mon Apr 04, 2016 3:41 am

Alyndra wrote:
Lifealert wrote:
This is a weird list for a warlock. Should go like this (hardest to easiest):


i fully agree with this list although i would put shamans below mages, because they can't be undead.

They can just spam tremor which is just as good. Especially considering it takes 6 seconds to kill a totem due to intense server delay.
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Re: Your class and opponent class difficulty scaling

by DrearyYew » Mon Apr 04, 2016 4:33 am

As Shockadin without updated T2 (probably gonna be the same when it gets updated anyways):

Rogue
Warrior
Hunter
Shaman
Druid
Warlock
Mage
SPriest

As Shockret without updated T2:

Rogue
Warrior
Hunter
Druid
Shaman
Warlock
Mage
Priest

As Shockret with updated T2:

Rogue
Warrior
Hunter
Druid
Shaman
Warlock
Mage
Priest

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Re: Your class and opponent class difficulty scaling

by dbDozer » Mon Apr 04, 2016 5:05 am

Azenn wrote:As a feral druid:

Druid
Rogue
Warrior
Hunter
Shaman/Paladin
Warlock
Mage
Priest

:)


You have to be a fucking autist to lose to a rogue as a feral druid...
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Re: Your class and opponent class difficulty scaling

by Thatoneguy » Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:17 am

dbDozer wrote:
Azenn wrote:As a feral druid:

Druid
Rogue
Warrior
Hunter
Shaman/Paladin
Warlock
Mage
Priest

:)


You have to be a fucking autist to lose to a rogue as a feral druid...


I'm sorry you can't beat Druids on your Rogue :lol:
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Re: Your class and opponent class difficulty scaling

by Simonich » Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:01 pm

Datruth wrote:Since you put other warriors as easy, does that mean you honestly think of yourself as good? :o



Well....


What i know is that the other classes are more difficult, thats all. Typically i beat warriors because i always charge first :D (during world pvp)
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Re: Your class and opponent class difficulty scaling

by Soulxlock » Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:22 pm

robil1994 wrote:As Warlock:

Warrior
Rogue
Druid
Paladin
Hunter
Warlock
Mage
Shaman
Priest

Really the only class with the slightest chance would be a good priest/shaman, even then it's a fair duel. I'd say as a Warlock i do well against most if not all.

PS. Too lazy for that fancy class colour thingy.


That doesn't sound right, a stealthed rogue in pvp spec stunlocks a warlock to death. So there is no matchup in that case, because you can't do anything against it :lol:.
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Re: Your class and opponent class difficulty scaling

by Ragstal » Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:37 pm

Datruth wrote:Since you put other warriors as easy, does that mean you honestly think of yourself as good? :o

um well its like this, warrior is the strongest and the most hard to pull out all of his power, i seen many warriors one shoting ppl like they were cookies...and if he have in party at all times a shaman behind him...well honestly i will try and hide my small cute butt, bcuz this thing is a faking TANK with blades and horns on its faking face, but since he is melee i have to say, IF the guy who is playing the warrior is noob? then piece of cake, even if he have the proper gear, cuz melee dude, as long u cant make contact, you are my bitch for all i want 8-)


BUT! there are those warriors as well that not only have the gear, BUT they also have the charisma 8-) 8-)

well those are to be feared.

warriors is 2 things

1 the biggest faking dmg output

2 the tankiest shit eve in dis game

but as long as the person behind it is...just not what it takes to make this ugly thing shine...then ITS OK!!

you can abuse him as long as u can :)

but yea if the warrior is a good warrior? well then add another difficulty color to the bottom

and im saying this from the prespective of the mage ok?
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