So... release code now?

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Re: So... release code now?

by Arx_1 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:18 am

Release the code now?


No, we won't.

Seek life elsewhere.
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Re: So... release code now?

by phyriel » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:54 pm

Arx_1 wrote:
Release the code now?


No, we won't.

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Re: So... release code now?

by melak » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:04 pm

AiinzOuroGoon wrote:
melak wrote:Unless you are a complete moron, you would figure out that you are more likely to get your "precious" code - or db (i know thats what people are really after :lol: ) after Blizz confirms they wont do it themselfs (aka most likely around blizzcon).


Except they won't say "definitely not", precisely for that reason - instead it will be swept under the rug, never to be heard of again. Unless ofc they made the Nost team sign a legal document to never release it (also possible/probable), in which case they'll use marketing-speak to say it can't be done.


Tinfoil hat to you my friend for distrusting the most transparent bunch of people (nost).
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Re: So... release code now?

by melak » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:08 pm

phyriel wrote:
melak wrote:Image


Dude if I wanted my char back i'd say it directly without any shame so I dunno why you post this meme like you uncovered some mystery fact and brag about it qq :P


Because you keep bitching about some source you will never get because it would be a self defeating act, how can this be too complicated for you :) ?

If its not about your damn char, then setup your own mangos server or go play elsewhere, i say again : them giving the source would deafeat any chance of there being offical legacy servers.
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Re: So... release code now?

by phyriel » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:06 pm

Dude you fail to understand me lol ;p I will repeat again then in hope to compress this under your skull. Ok you ready? There I go: I AGREE WITH YOU but only if Legacy is what majority of this community want and for that I have my doubts as there was no poll, no vote and even in this topic alone we can kinda see mixed replies. It's Nost Team initiative backed by huge petition outbreak (so community has some say in that, me included) and after meeting, after learning that Legacy servers are all we can hope for I take my voice as member of community, that signed petition to voice my opinion, that vanilla servers should stay in private scene, and for that I'd like Nost to release the source (if they can no longer take care of that or its unsafe for them to keep doing that) so private scene can begin to rebuild (no1 wants to go back to shitty ass completely bugged servers, without anti hack system etc. So your alternative aka set my own server or go kill time on some shitty server is kind of showing middle finger to all private scene you know?). Dont act white knightish here because your goal is different than mine. Don't antagonize me because I have the right as a member of this community to have different point of view.

Tinfoil hat to you my friend for distrusting the most transparent bunch of people (nost).


You don't know those people, you can't verify their integrity, so tinfoil hat for you for being devoted zealot *just because your goals happen to be same this time with Nost Team doesn't mean they are transparent* its ok you believe so, its ok we don't. Don't be jerk :)

P.S btw I made a short research on you, it seems like you were playing WoD just a few months ago and you quit lately with your friends because you noticed things are not fun anymore huh? So I kinda understand now why you're still some sort of blizz fanboi and believe they can still do things right. Oh well, I've been you but like 5 years ago.
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Re: So... release code now?

by gottie4u » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:59 pm

I don't really post a lot on these forums, but I was long playing character on Nost, I made tons of gold, tons of enemies, killed plenty of dragons, made 3 fucking sets on my lock!!; made a budget for all my gold expenses every week so I could raid every week and it felt so god damn good to be so organized in WoW. I even was working on another mage because i made my character so efficient. I could not log on for 2 weeks and still be able to just raid if i so chose to. But because it was a good game i sometimes spent more time on it. My 60 Lock and me made tons of memories on the horde with my buddies in Pantheon. I never ever was this good at playing this game when i was younger either, I played with the arrows keys for movement for fucks sake and made a "battle mage", a meele mage that swords and offhands and instants only. I didnt know about ranks either. But god damn it I made it to lvl 21. Then i rolled a hunter i got to 51 and my pc broke.

I never thought I could have as much fun in WoW as I did when I started playing on Nostalrius. It was a brilliant experience. http://steamcommunity.com/id/gottie4u/screenshots/

Funny enough, all those things i mentioned about organization I actually began to adopt in my personal life as well since I was always a little displaced with my things and stuff. So I started thinking of all the things in my apartment as a "inventory" and bought notebooks and a file cabinet to keep track of a ton of things in certain categories. Same thing with my cabinets, bought a dick ton of mason jars, labels, and a notebook to track meals and shit and never eat out anymore because of it. But besides the fact that Vanilla showed me organizational skills I thought I never had I applied to RL and it feels good.

I don't believe Blizzard will give us a server, I am pessimistic person, but I will still hope I am wrong and instead they announce a release or dev process of some sort. But I what do also hope is that if Blizzard goes south and gives us the pristine bullshit or nothing I hope Nost rebels and doesn't forsake it's community and releases the code but not the characters, I am willing to start the journey over again somewhere on a Baltic server with no P4Characters or any kind of monetized service.

I played on Retail starting in Vanilla and unfortunately missed out on the Burning Crusade, but I did play when Wrath first started and I remember what it was before all the LFG, it had a right feel to because we still had to explore and navigate to the dungeons. Hell flying mounts were actually great in certain zones in Northrend because of how fucking huge they were. But, I think they could have added more way to take down enemy faction in Icecrown. Remember the ships? The quest that offered to 12 allies a day? Holy god the WPvP that would have enaged would have been epic, but some would cry because by 3.2-3.3 the game began its descent to casualization; all the way till WoD, I hated what Blizzard had the made game ever since they were taken over by Activison and I hope a new MMO entirely does carve the way if worse comes to worse.
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Re: So... release code now?

by EyeOfTruth » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:11 pm

I just hope official Legacy servers gets released, so we can finally bury this 99% bullshit Private server scene. Now its closer than ever. Official servers are superior what comes to safety of playing experience and stability of the service. - And that's only what I care.

So people say they trust illegal operators more than actual legal entity what works under international business and consumer laws? Please... kids
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Re: So... release code now?

by phyriel » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:25 pm

I have never said that private servers ever got a chance to be as stable/secure as Blizzard. Its not this matter I have my doubts about. It's content trust, I think the way Blizzard is for years now... they will ruin that Legacy thing one way or another and I'd honestly rather play some sort of Nostalrius 2.0 somewhere... even with lags we had in prime time than spend like a year on Activision-Blizzard server just to witness some anti-vanilla action. Am I certain they will ruin it? No ofc not, I don't have a proof for anything but the way they've been acting for years now, the way they develop content and talk about things for various of their games... I have no hope they can come up with anything half way as good as vanilla.
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Re: So... release code now?

by Cronpa » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:58 pm

phyriel wrote:I have never said that private servers ever got a chance to be as stable/secure as Blizzard. Its not this matter I have my doubts about. It's content trust, I think the way Blizzard is for years now... they will ruin that Legacy thing one way or another and I'd honestly rather play some sort of Nostalrius 2.0 somewhere... even with lags we had in prime time than spend like a year on Activision-Blizzard server just to witness some anti-vanilla action. Am I certain they will ruin it? No ofc not, I don't have a proof for anything but the way they've been acting for years now, the way they develop content and talk about things for various of their games... I have no hope they can come up with anything half way as good as vanilla.

Why don't you then? The other vanilla realm is really popular. Many of those with your mindset went there immediately.

From the very beginning the front page had something like "We will see if we can release the source code or if it's a bad idea". After the meeting was announced, it was obviously a bad idea. In the reddit QA Nostalrius also said they'll look into the db security and won't release it if there isn't a good way.
I think Mark Kern also did ask about franchising and 'legal private servers' but the answer was no. I'm 90% sure of this, his tweets had so much info in small parts.
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Re: So... release code now?

by Uidrae » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:03 am

phyriel wrote:
Dude if I wanted my char back i'd say it directly without any shame so I dunno why you post this meme like you uncovered some mystery fact and brag about it qq :P And yea while it would be insane to get my char back as I grew into liking it quite a bit (i dunno when you joined so cant say if you can relate to your char as much as I did so I won't say anything). This thing is about principles and living up to own word. But I'm patient ill wait for whatever blizz has to say if thats what majority of this community want (even tho im not sure about that, should've made a poll about it when pettition was at its peak and ask community if we wanted to talk to blizz about Legacy or about keeping it private), after they leave you with fat corporate NO ill have my share of laughter and maybe then we will start mending our private scene again. Because atm scene is completely stopped because Blizzard threw you a bone of "maybe".


Why would they make a poll about talk to Blizz or keep "private scene"? They were told they would be sued if they continued the private scene, so that wasn't an option.

It seems like you just want to play for free. You could always go play another private server. There are quite a few. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what it sounds like.

If you're worried about Blizzard screwing things up, I can certainly understand that. In that case, did you fill out the survey the Nost team created to help inform Blizzard of what you hope to see?
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