WoW Mentality

[Simonich]

Bump, i still stand for this topic

[Beasleyboy]

If people wanted to be doing what you suggested, then they would be doing it. But they aren't. They don't give a shit. Sorry to burst your bubble, but no matter how many times you post threads like this and claim that your "vision" is somehow more noble than what everyone else enjoys doing, it will not change the fact that 99% of the players don't agree with you.

[Dr. Doom]

Alliance wpvp is really, really sad. I am the highest rank who cares at all when there are world defense alerts. I guess every other r10+ has premades to attend to.
At most there are 2 or 3 guys in the area that care to fight. Last week's event in Silithus, general chat was literally "just hide and keep farming" posts.

[ricohouse]

I wish there was an Alliance guild with a similar mindset. There doesn't appear to be. My rogue is therefore only used for a few battlegrounds on weekends and for killing people heading into Blackrock Mountain. I'm levelling a Horde Warlock now and will be joining the pillaging soon

[Simonich]

If people wanted to be doing what you suggested, then they would be doing it. But they aren't. They don't give a shit. Sorry to burst your bubble, but no matter how many times you post threads like this and claim that your "vision" is somehow more noble than what everyone else enjoys doing, it will not change the fact that 99% of the players don't agree with you.

Theyre not doing it for reasons i stated in op, i guess you didnt bother to try to understand.
Dont use false exaggerating words like "vision" or "noble". Never said so.

Now i have an entire guild here interested in this kind of action, but most off them are occupied with gearing up. Now i understand how they head for basic gear like rank 8 gear or rank 10 if they can, along with some dungeons. But ive seen random people in bgs openly whining and expressing their frustration, going after dat rank 14, obviously not enjoying the progress, i wonder, why do they do it? Averagely its "so i can kill more people and be cool" basically being slaves of purples

I understand there are people who enjoy the competition of premading towards to the top (even though it consists of premades farming pugs in an instanced place over and over and over? thats just me though) or the time run challenges of pve raids (isnt it boring to do the same instance over and over? Again just me though)

[sownu]

Battlegrounds are front lines.

".. points of strategic importance to both the Alliance and the Horde."

It's where most skilled soldiers meet and where you learn to fight. Armies of both, Alliance and Horde focus there.

It's not grind. It's WAR. It's literally front line. Toughest place where to be.

In comparison your band of thugs are fighting peasants far away from any point of importance and get destroyed as soon as you start to attract attention from anyone who has actually been to WAR.

[Soyoen]

Battlegrounds are restricted theme parks.

[Simonich]

Battlegrounds are front lines.

".. points of strategic importance to both the Alliance and the Horde."

It's where most skilled soldiers meet and where you learn to fight. Armies of both, Alliance and Horde focus there.

It's not grind. It's WAR. It's literally front line. Toughest place where to be.

In comparison your band of thugs are fighting peasants far away from any point of importance and get destroyed as soon as you start to attract attention from anyone who has actually been to WAR.

Thats a complete different roleplayish point of view.

Here's my roleplayish point of view

WSG is Ashenvale themed, AB is Arathi Highlands themed, AV is Hillsbrad themed.
All those zones are neutral contested zones. They are indeed strategic valleys, the one richest in resources (therefore more rewarding). It is where you go fight for these important resources.

Unfortunately those people who earned the resources (r13 geared ppl) sit idle in the capital cities drinking expensive wine, instead of advancing in war and actually move towards the enemy. We are the true force. We dare to step in your lands, where the odds are against us, and not even.

True war? Heh..You know where the enemy is coming for. You have never tasted the heat and the danger of standing and surviving in the heart of your enemy, inside their own damn city. The challenge is huger with our militia-themed equipment, the thrill is huge when you manage to defeat and lay the killing blow where they least expect it, inbetween all those fat stone walls.

It's where you truly engage in the art of war. Where standing in the enemy city, details can be spotted which can change the tide of the battle, every single command, along disciplined soldiers, a command towards glory, where eventually you will do a mistake and feel the pain for it, dropping on the floor, looking at the sky and fainting along with the smell from the shed blood of the dead alliance bastards.

I've reached exalted with AV and AB, halfway exalted with WSG, i've lead premades of random people, especially arathi basin premades, were ones quite exciting. Fighting an r10 premade with superior setup, and winning 2000-1990 , other moments that were important to who was the victorious, i wont forget them. But it got old, it's always the same.

World PvP is where at you fight, and you dont want to die (in bgs you just expect it and get rezd after 15 sec averagely), overcoming superiorly equipped opponents with organization and discipline and tactics, with a flavor of glory above, infinite scenarios can occur, it's the most unpredictable

[roland79]

I agree that Voro has an overpowering point. I have know alot of players like the ones he describes

I ask them so when you get xyz what are you going to do?

Most of them quit

[stimz]

That which you seek existed once, yet it's gone.

Look when WoW released most of its players never played MMO games before. They were overwhelmed by the possibilities but within the years the mentaility changed to what WoW is now on retail.

It has little to do with WoW but how mainstream MMOs have become and how accessible they have become to kids without credit cards, especially with the F2P business model. The communities you miss all came from EQ/AO/DaoC/Shadowbane ect, now they all come from GW2, call of duty, league of legends ect. It'll never be the same and this is why every sandbox mmo thats gonna come out aside from EVE which is just completely accessible to most players will never work. Community driven games are dead before they release.