Let's fund the 2nd PvP server

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Re: Let's fund the 2nd PvP server

by Konwizzle » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:52 pm

Rerun wrote:
Konwizzle wrote:What's wrong with the other PvP server that's already available? If you're not happy here, stop whining and do something about it, otherwise nothing is going to change.

Pottu confirmed (again) that there will be no new Nostalrius PvP server "in the near future", which probably translates to "never". They're working on BC, clustering, and keeping the hackers at bay.



What's wrong with the other PvP server?
At peaks times: The mobs and the players, (the whole view distance is fucked because of server lag) only come into view mere inches before you stand on top of them. No view distance in BG's either. You even aggro mobs that arent even visible yet sometimes. You stand as a melee character on top of your target and it still says that you're too far away. Whenever you press a key it can take 0,5 to 2 seconds before it actually casts. Disconnections and server downtime when you're in raids, removing valuable buffs. Too little gathering nodes to level professions. Not enough quest mobs cause they're all being camped. Too much ganking because of 14.000+ players online at peak times. Of which like 4000 are gold farmers.

The list goes on buddy. Don't be this copy and paste wiseguy with "Whats wrong with the current server, stop whining" bs. It's more than obvious there is a serious overpopulation going on. And guess what?
In this thread we are trying to do something about it. Besides, Pottu actually did say they will open a new Vanilla PvP realm if we - the community - work for it. So that's what we are trying to do here.



lol I was talking about the server whose name starts with K. Their pop is close to retail levels now.

Why do people sit here and whine all day when it takes 30 seconds to move to a perfectly good PvP server?
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Re: Let's fund the 2nd PvP server

by Konwizzle » Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:37 am

TK-34 wrote:
Konwizzle wrote:lol I was talking about the server whose name starts with K. Their pop is close to retail levels now.

Why do people sit here and whine all day when it takes 30 seconds to move to a perfectly good PvP server?

It's called Stockholm Syndrome.

It's also because any time invested in anything then given a choice of investing MORE time, or starting fresh and people for some dumbfounded reason would rather create more problems just so they don't lost that 'time invested'.

Sad.

The GMs here keep saying over and over "No new server, no transfers". And they're definitely not going to change their minds just because people whine a lot on the forums.

If people don't like this server, their best option is to go somewhere else. Hell, you can even get back to level 60 faster for the next few days since they're having an XP boost event.
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Re: Let's fund the 2nd PvP server

by Rhook » Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:33 am

Another prob would be the pve server. Since lots of players play there due to the lag and overpopulation on the pvp server, releasing a fresh one would actually decrease the population on the pve server. It now peaks at 3k on eu evening, but in the worst case the rerolling would be drastically noticeable on the population.
Nost would be paying for a > 1500 pop server then while we have to pay for our own new server.

Anyway, i would pay for it since i really love pvp but cant stand the overpop. Its just no fun anymore.
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Re: Let's fund the 2nd PvP server

by Rerun » Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:15 am

lol I was talking about the server whose name starts with K. Their pop is close to retail levels now.

Why do people sit here and whine all day when it takes 30 seconds to move to a perfectly good PvP server?



Oh well my bad lol. You weren't very clear on that.

Anyway, K. is definitly not what you can call a perfectly good PvP server.
Having a very low population ranging from 500 to maybe a bit over 1000.
Having XP Boost Events? Sorry, thats not what I'm looking for at all.

Besides, we're not whining all day. We are stating our opinion, I for one am just disappointed the population got so out of hand it is not enjoyable to play anymore. All I'm doing is trying to organize something with the community so that we actually can open a new one.
.. in purgatory until a new vanilla pvp realm is opened.
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Re: Let's fund the 2nd PvP server

by ozusteapot » Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:39 am

Rhook wrote:Another prob would be the pve server. Since lots of players play there due to the lag and overpopulation on the pvp server, releasing a fresh one would actually decrease the population on the pve server. It now peaks at 3k on eu evening, but in the worst case the rerolling would be drastically noticeable on the population.
Nost would be paying for a > 1500 pop server then while we have to pay for our own new server.

Anyway, i would pay for it since i really love pvp but cant stand the overpop. Its just no fun anymore.


Well yes, most people want to play Vanilla WoW on a PvP server, it's just more fun, and of course they'll jump at the possibility of playing on a server with another PvP server with a decently-sized population. It's a damn shame that the devs decided to have the 2nd server be a pve one, especially since they saw that the interest for a pve one was pretty damn low to begin with. I think that if there would have been a moderately advertised poll on what type the 2nd server should have been (pve/pvp), the result would have been different.
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Re: Let's fund the 2nd PvP server

by Konwizzle » Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:42 pm

Rerun wrote:
lol I was talking about the server whose name starts with K. Their pop is close to retail levels now.

Why do people sit here and whine all day when it takes 30 seconds to move to a perfectly good PvP server?



Oh well my bad lol. You weren't very clear on that.

Anyway, K. is definitly not what you can call a perfectly good PvP server.
Having a very low population ranging from 500 to maybe a bit over 1000.
Having XP Boost Events? Sorry, thats not what I'm looking for at all.

Besides, we're not whining all day. We are stating our opinion, I for one am just disappointed the population got so out of hand it is not enjoyable to play anymore. All I'm doing is trying to organize something with the community so that we actually can open a new one.


Their population peaks around 2k now. Last night during off-peak hours there were still 600 horde and 700 alliance online. What's better, 13,000 players with a fucked up economy, rampant hacking and gold selling, tons of lag and zero view distance, or a normal retail population? Gee, I wonder...

There's not going to be a 2nd Nost PvP server. They've been saying that since March and Pottu just said it again this week.
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Re: Let's fund the 2nd PvP server

by Rerun » Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:24 pm

Their population peaks around 2k now. Last night during off-peak hours there were still 600 horde and 700 alliance online. What's better, 13,000 players with a fucked up economy, rampant hacking and gold selling, tons of lag and zero view distance, or a normal retail population? Gee, I wonder...

There's not going to be a 2nd Nost PvP server. They've been saying that since March and Pottu just said it again this week.


Feel free to go there then. I personally do not like the line of sight medling they did. And I definitly hate XP boost events and the sort. Besides that, the world is still too dead. I've logged in there a week ago. Both extremes aren't good.

If you don't believe a new vanilla pvp realm is possible then that's fine. Let us be.
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Re: Let's fund the 2nd PvP server

by Konwizzle » Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:04 pm

Rerun wrote:
Their population peaks around 2k now. Last night during off-peak hours there were still 600 horde and 700 alliance online. What's better, 13,000 players with a fucked up economy, rampant hacking and gold selling, tons of lag and zero view distance, or a normal retail population? Gee, I wonder...

There's not going to be a 2nd Nost PvP server. They've been saying that since March and Pottu just said it again this week.


Feel free to go there then. I personally do not like the line of sight medling they did. And I definitly hate XP boost events and the sort. Besides that, the world is still too dead. I've logged in there a week ago. Both extremes aren't good.

If you don't believe a new vanilla pvp realm is possible then that's fine. Let us be.


Oh yeah... not being able to shoot through a tree is totally gamebreaking, but the fact that channeled spells aren't even working properly on Nost is just a feature!

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Re: Let's fund the 2nd PvP server

by erwinestpol » Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:16 pm

Implement an English-client only to play on Nost and most of the people who bother us with blank messages and overpopulation (russians, the chinese w/e) will simply quit because they'll be unable to understand a thing, this can be backed with the argument that this servers official language is ENGLISH. facts
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Re: Let's fund the 2nd PvP server

by erwinestpol » Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:24 pm

and together with that ban ANY other symbols than the ones used to speak English, and we're set.
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