Why is Orgrimmar the main horde hangout?

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Re: Why is Orgrimmar the main horde hangout?

by Thatoneguy » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:39 pm

Orgrimmar has everything.

- I want to raid ZG? Zeppelin > Mount up and I'm there in 2 minutes.
- I want to raid BWL/MC? Zeppelin > Fly for 5 minutes.
- I want to go do a 5 man like Stratholm or Scholomance? Zeppelin > mount up for a couple of min.
- I want to get expert Blacksmithing? Oh look I'm already in the city I need to be.
- Oh hey look random Onyxia buff, that's never bad.
- I don't feel like flying from TB to Orgrimmar every time I want to do something.
- I don't feel like waiting on elevators or end up being dismounted by green water.

And the best part? When I'm doing playing wow I just press my Hearthstone and I'm back in the city of golden opportunity.
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Re: Why is Orgrimmar the main horde hangout?

by Kelissandra » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:57 pm

zeppelins!
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Re: Why is Orgrimmar the main horde hangout?

by Imbaslap » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:58 pm

the only place where you can afk at the bank or AH and still get dragonslayer world buff. :)
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Re: Why is Orgrimmar the main horde hangout?

by Zula » Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:17 am

Thatoneguy wrote:- I want to raid ZG? Zeppelin > Mount up and I'm there in 2 minutes.

Thatoneguy wrote:- I want to raid BWL/MC? Zeppelin > Fly for 5 minutes.


Going to nitpicking here but right has to be right.
(100% Mount / 60% Mount / Walking)

Orgrimmar Afk Area (between the AH & the Bank) > Zeppelin Tower
Roughlt a minute(~45 / ~65 / ~105 seconds) to run from to get to the zeppelin tower, another 0 seconds to 4.2 Minutes for the Zep to arrive at the tower and another 2,3 Minutes to arrive in Grom'gol Basecamp from the tower(travel time between tower to tower).
Grom'gol Base Camp > Zul'Gurub Portal takes from the tower (1,8 / 2,4 / 3,7) minutes to reach the Zul'Gurub portal.
Grom'gol Base Camp > Blackrock Mountain: Flying takes between 5,2 Minutes to arrive in Badlands.

From Orgrimmar to Zul'Gurub Portal will take:
Walking: Around 7,7 to 11,9 Minutes (462 to 714 Seconds)
60% Mount: Around 5,7 to 9,9 Minutes (342 to 594 Seconds)
100% Mount: Around 4,8 to 9.0 Minutes (288 to 540 Seconds)

From Orgrimmar to Blackrock Mountain Entrancel will take
Walking: Around 11,9 to 16,2 Minutes (714 to 972 Seconds)
60% Mount: Around 10,8 to 15,0 Minutes (648 to 900 Seconds)
100% Mount: Around 10,0 to 14,2 Mintues (600 to 852 Seconds)

I were taking a realistic route and excluded the time it whould take mounting, unmounting, etc. I've spent an hour doing this shit.
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Re: Why is Orgrimmar the main horde hangout?

by Takaminara » Thu Mar 31, 2016 4:14 am

Zula wrote:
Thatoneguy wrote:- I want to raid ZG? Zeppelin > Mount up and I'm there in 2 minutes.

Thatoneguy wrote:- I want to raid BWL/MC? Zeppelin > Fly for 5 minutes.


Going to nitpicking here but right has to be right.
(100% Mount / 60% Mount / Walking)

Orgrimmar Afk Area (between the AH & the Bank) > Zeppelin Tower
Roughlt a minute(~45 / ~65 / ~105 seconds) to run from to get to the zeppelin tower, another 0 seconds to 4.2 Minutes for the Zep to arrive at the tower and another 2,3 Minutes to arrive in Grom'gol Basecamp from the tower(travel time between tower to tower).
Grom'gol Base Camp > Zul'Gurub Portal takes from the tower (1,8 / 2,4 / 3,7) minutes to reach the Zul'Gurub portal.
Grom'gol Base Camp > Blackrock Mountain: Flying takes between 5,2 Minutes to arrive in Badlands.

From Orgrimmar to Zul'Gurub Portal will take:
Walking: Around 7,7 to 11,9 Minutes (462 to 714 Seconds)
60% Mount: Around 5,7 to 9,9 Minutes (342 to 594 Seconds)
100% Mount: Around 4,8 to 9.0 Minutes (288 to 540 Seconds)

From Orgrimmar to Blackrock Mountain Entrancel will take
Walking: Around 11,9 to 16,2 Minutes (714 to 972 Seconds)
60% Mount: Around 10,8 to 15,0 Minutes (648 to 900 Seconds)
100% Mount: Around 10,0 to 14,2 Mintues (600 to 852 Seconds)

I were taking a realistic route and excluded the time it whould take mounting, unmounting, etc. I've spent an hour doing this shit.


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Re: Why is Orgrimmar the main horde hangout?

by St0rfan » Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:12 am

Zula wrote:
Thatoneguy wrote:- I want to raid ZG? Zeppelin > Mount up and I'm there in 2 minutes.

Thatoneguy wrote:- I want to raid BWL/MC? Zeppelin > Fly for 5 minutes.


Going to nitpicking here but right has to be right.
(100% Mount / 60% Mount / Walking)

Orgrimmar Afk Area (between the AH & the Bank) > Zeppelin Tower
Roughlt a minute(~45 / ~65 / ~105 seconds) to run from to get to the zeppelin tower, another 0 seconds to 4.2 Minutes for the Zep to arrive at the tower and another 2,3 Minutes to arrive in Grom'gol Basecamp from the tower(travel time between tower to tower).
Grom'gol Base Camp > Zul'Gurub Portal takes from the tower (1,8 / 2,4 / 3,7) minutes to reach the Zul'Gurub portal.
Grom'gol Base Camp > Blackrock Mountain: Flying takes between 5,2 Minutes to arrive in Badlands.

From Orgrimmar to Zul'Gurub Portal will take:
Walking: Around 7,7 to 11,9 Minutes (462 to 714 Seconds)
60% Mount: Around 5,7 to 9,9 Minutes (342 to 594 Seconds)
100% Mount: Around 4,8 to 9.0 Minutes (288 to 540 Seconds)

From Orgrimmar to Blackrock Mountain Entrancel will take
Walking: Around 11,9 to 16,2 Minutes (714 to 972 Seconds)
60% Mount: Around 10,8 to 15,0 Minutes (648 to 900 Seconds)
100% Mount: Around 10,0 to 14,2 Mintues (600 to 852 Seconds)

I were taking a realistic route and excluded the time it whould take mounting, unmounting, etc. I've spent an hour doing this shit.


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Re: Why is Orgrimmar the main horde hangout?

by ShaqPack » Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:57 am

Even back in vanilla, before a lot of content was released, Orgrimmar was pretty much always the choice. Besides stuff like a zep ride and fly from STV being the same time duration or slightly less then a trip from UC, Orgrimmar is closer to more horde friendly quest hubs then the UC, has trainers for all classes (minus druids), has a dungeon inside of it for lowbies, and typically the most important quest chains lead you to Orgrimmar.... stuff like the Ony quest chain, MC quests are close by in Azshara, etc.... you are kind of lead to believe the city is more important then the others. The other half of it is obviously the looks, the UC just looks dull. The only thing cool about it is the elevators, meanwhile Orgrimmar has the bank roof - probably the coolest place in the game to AFK.
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Re: Why is Orgrimmar the main horde hangout?

by Alyndra » Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:32 am

for alliance it is pretty much split. i have alot of shit to do down in SW (making mooncloth, buying combat potions, getting to ZG, ony buff). etc.

having an auction house and a bank in SW is really convenient but it is also so far away from the harbor in vanilla. IF let's you cross to kalimdor in a heartbeat. BRM is reasonably close to both cities, ZG is closer to SW. for AQ you better HS to silithus anyway (unless engineer).

stormwind is however full of goldbeggars, hanging out there on a geared lvl 60 is very cancerous. it is the low level city. and only low level business gets done here, nothing profitable. so stick with IF.

now to conclude the major similarities between if and og:
- wide open areas
- afk'ing area basically = ah/bank area = main gate area
- close to intercontinental travel (harbor/zepp)
- can autopilot to the FP

in UC i ALWAYS seem to have to run a full 360° around the top levle to find the FP because for the love me i cannot remember where he is. after 10 years. i know...

i can also tell you that the ony buff plays no role for SW because on nost the buff is limited by LOS so 99% of the city don't even get it.
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Re: Why is Orgrimmar the main horde hangout?

by Thatoneguy » Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:46 am

Zula wrote:
Thatoneguy wrote:- I want to raid ZG? Zeppelin > Mount up and I'm there in 2 minutes.

Thatoneguy wrote:- I want to raid BWL/MC? Zeppelin > Fly for 5 minutes.


Going to nitpicking here but right has to be right.
(100% Mount / 60% Mount / Walking)

Orgrimmar Afk Area (between the AH & the Bank) > Zeppelin Tower
Roughlt a minute(~45 / ~65 / ~105 seconds) to run from to get to the zeppelin tower, another 0 seconds to 4.2 Minutes for the Zep to arrive at the tower and another 2,3 Minutes to arrive in Grom'gol Basecamp from the tower(travel time between tower to tower).
Grom'gol Base Camp > Zul'Gurub Portal takes from the tower (1,8 / 2,4 / 3,7) minutes to reach the Zul'Gurub portal.
Grom'gol Base Camp > Blackrock Mountain: Flying takes between 5,2 Minutes to arrive in Badlands.

From Orgrimmar to Zul'Gurub Portal will take:
Walking: Around 7,7 to 11,9 Minutes (462 to 714 Seconds)
60% Mount: Around 5,7 to 9,9 Minutes (342 to 594 Seconds)
100% Mount: Around 4,8 to 9.0 Minutes (288 to 540 Seconds)

From Orgrimmar to Blackrock Mountain Entrancel will take
Walking: Around 11,9 to 16,2 Minutes (714 to 972 Seconds)
60% Mount: Around 10,8 to 15,0 Minutes (648 to 900 Seconds)
100% Mount: Around 10,0 to 14,2 Mintues (600 to 852 Seconds)

I were taking a realistic route and excluded the time it whould take mounting, unmounting, etc. I've spent an hour doing this shit.


Thanks, statistics like these are always nice. Lets take it from a comperative perspective.

Does Thunder Bluff shorten the travel distance? No, because you have to travel to Orgrimmar first.
Does Undercity shorten the travel distance? It seems the answer isn't relevant because nobody cares about UC :cry:
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Re: Why is Orgrimmar the main horde hangout?

by Norjak » Thu Mar 31, 2016 1:59 pm

Zula wrote:Going to nitpicking here but right has to be right.
(100% Mount / 60% Mount / Walking)

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I were taking a realistic route and excluded the time it whould take mounting, unmounting, etc. I've spent an hour doing this shit.


So what's your point? Is Undercity any better? It's fine to nit-pick Orgrimmar travel times, but it's pretty meaningless unless you compare it to another alternative or offer a solution (or at least pretend like that's what you want to do.)
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