Ret Pallys

[smilkovpetko]

oh dear...
time to put this thread back within the cage of pally forums.

I agree. There is nothing more sad to see than the self-pally hate vanilla wow has. Most class forums are filled with helping threads loaded with information while pally players fight each other constantly and spill over into general forums and world chat.

If you take a look closer there is most stickies posts in Pally Forum with helping threads compare to other Class Forums
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In general though, the one bad thing brought back with this game is the know-it-alls who, even when faced with statistical proof and videos, continue to spout the same tired opinions based largely on stereotypes. There are guilds and players in game far more open minded with the capacity to educate players or even try new things. I suggest players seek these others out in game and pick out the information from forums relevant to their needs and not get caught up in the crying game.

10 years old game , people want to enjoy in Game , if you are here to tell them don't play Retribution Paladin or you will never step into raids then this person will never enjoy in Game .

Now everything is Viable
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i think i will add something hopefully nobody will get angry.

Hybrids can DPS , maybe not quite high with margins but they still do , i have seen Hybrids doing 1k DPS BWL Geared or something more.

I believe the game is based to "Enjoy in Game" instead focus on "hardcore" progression and what is more viable for doing it 1 hour faster or slower.

With 30 People any Raid can be cleared properly and easy as long as you have :
4 Tanks (2 warr 1 druid 1 pala)
7 Healers (2 pala , 2 druid,3 priest)
8 Melee (2 fury, 1 arms , 3 rogue,1 Feral, 1 Retri)
11 Range (3 Hunter,3 Warlock,3 Mage,1Spriest,1 Boomkin)

This is the list of 30 people who can do every possible job and achieve every possible tactic that exist.

10 people can be random trash,fool ,noobs and still clear the raid as long as they do at least descent job.

There is no point to argue for something pointless lads , it is just game , deal with it .
Everything is viable if person know how to play his spec,class , bring all consumes and preraid Gear.

Some are more or less effective on several occasions but the same ones can be key role for hardest events .
It's just a game. Stop with priority on buffs/class specs and enjoy it .

after all , MC/BWL/Onyxia is calculated for 300 DPS average per raid member Maximum , anything more than 300 is just nothing more but Boost.

[Shunin]

Man sorry guys, wasn't trying to start a big thread :/ was just curious about ret because that is something I didn't try back when I started playing in TBC. Was seeing if maybe it would be worth the leveling grind

Anyways thank you all for your input, I think I will stick to my resto druid for now and maybe make a Pally alt or something:) Thank you!

[zmandude24]

I'd say many guilds will take like one per raid to guarantee the judgements are up and to use nightfall. You will never be high priority for gear in serious guilds, but there is opportunity for ret paladins.

[Ana]

Giving Nightfall to a paladin is wasting a perfectly good Nightfall.

[smilkovpetko]

Giving Nightfall to a paladin is wasting a perfectly good Nightfall.

at least ret is 3 times more beneficial compare to feral druids , boomkins , (if you have 2x shadow priest is also wasted slot and worse ) so 1 ret pally better than 2x spriest , so you better stick with 1 spriest or wasted slot either.

more than 3 hunters is also wasting slot compare to use 1 ret pally , everything that i have listed it would end up wasted slot .

Retribution Paladin is the best AoE and 100% efficient for trash clearing during raid which is major issue for most of the guilds wasting time there (especially suppression room in bwl) .

This is what Retribution Paladin gives as Ultility and also boosting the raid speed during trash clearing.
(example aq40) where there is too much trash to clear ,1 retribution paladin will do better job than using 3x warlocks for aoe and trash.

Yes they are viable and is always good to have 1 for trash speed clearing as trash are main issue during raids.

With all the broken abilities (twice worse than Nostalrius) , this is how it goes the damage against trash during AQ40 http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... 95&Trash=3

[indianola]

"Damage during trash"

Gave me a good laugh tbh.

[Ashix]

Giving Nightfall to a paladin is wasting a perfectly good Nightfall.

at least ret is 3 times more beneficial compare to feral druids , boomkins , (if you have 2x shadow priest is also wasted slot and worse ) so 1 ret pally better than 2x spriest , so you better stick with 1 spriest or wasted slot either.

more than 3 hunters is also wasting slot compare to use 1 ret pally , everything that i have listed it would end up wasted slot .

Retribution Paladin is the best AoE and 100% efficient for trash clearing during raid which is major issue for most of the guilds wasting time there (especially suppression room in bwl) .

This is what Retribution Paladin gives as Ultility and also boosting the raid speed during trash clearing.
(example aq40) where there is too much trash to clear ,1 retribution paladin will do better job than using 3x warlocks for aoe and trash.

Yes they are viable and is always good to have 1 for trash speed clearing as trash are main issue during raids.

With all the broken abilities (twice worse than Nostalrius) , this is how it goes the damage against trash during AQ40 http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... 95&Trash=3

Stop....

Just stop.

[Mase]

Giving Nightfall to a paladin is wasting a perfectly good Nightfall.

at least ret is 3 times more beneficial compare to feral druids , boomkins , (if you have 2x shadow priest is also wasted slot and worse ) so 1 ret pally better than 2x spriest , so you better stick with 1 spriest or wasted slot either.

more than 3 hunters is also wasting slot compare to use 1 ret pally , everything that i have listed it would end up wasted slot .

Retribution Paladin is the best AoE and 100% efficient for trash clearing during raid which is major issue for most of the guilds wasting time there (especially suppression room in bwl) .

This is what Retribution Paladin gives as Ultility and also boosting the raid speed during trash clearing.
(example aq40) where there is too much trash to clear ,1 retribution paladin will do better job than using 3x warlocks for aoe and trash.

Yes they are viable and is always good to have 1 for trash speed clearing as trash are main issue during raids.

With all the broken abilities (twice worse than Nostalrius) , this is how it goes the damage against trash during AQ40 http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... 95&Trash=3

For one, I mean why not just invite one of the million furys/rogues/mages to fill those slots?
2, are you seriously using trash dps to justify your argument?

[TheBrodie]

This is the list of 30 people who can do every possible job and achieve every possible tactic that exist.

10 people can be random trash,fool ,noobs and still clear the raid as long as they do at least descent job.

So your plan is to be non-critical random trash? I mean this is the part that bothers me the most about people like you. You literally need 30 other people to all do something you're unwilling to do in order for you to play ret and if they do take you, they're leaving dps on the table. At it's base, it's parasitic behavior. Yet somehow you expect people to do it, because the parasite isn't lethal to the raid.

[Taladril]

Giving Nightfall to a paladin is wasting a perfectly good Nightfall.

at least ret is 3 times more beneficial compare to feral druids , boomkins , (if you have 2x shadow priest is also wasted slot and worse ) so 1 ret pally better than 2x spriest , so you better stick with 1 spriest or wasted slot either.

more than 3 hunters is also wasting slot compare to use 1 ret pally , everything that i have listed it would end up wasted slot .

Retribution Paladin is the best AoE and 100% efficient for trash clearing during raid which is major issue for most of the guilds wasting time there (especially suppression room in bwl) .

This is what Retribution Paladin gives as Ultility and also boosting the raid speed during trash clearing.
(example aq40) where there is too much trash to clear ,1 retribution paladin will do better job than using 3x warlocks for aoe and trash.

Yes they are viable and is always good to have 1 for trash speed clearing as trash are main issue during raids.

With all the broken abilities (twice worse than Nostalrius) , this is how it goes the damage against trash during AQ40 http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/Fight ... 95&Trash=3

Ret is 3 times more beneficial than feral, moonkin, or shadow priest? Big lol.