I would happily buy2play Legacy WoW but NEVER subscribe

[Zanbaka]

@Jeniwyn
You mention that incomes in some countries are pretty low (for example countries in East-Europe), but ironically a lot of people in these countries consume excessive amounts of alcohol and cigarettes which aren't exactly health or money enhancing agents. Also as an example, I had a Bulgarian roommate who didn't have enough money to buy food, yet was able to buy a pack of cigarettes a day. Being a ex-student, I can also tell you that many people are just downright lazy to look for a part time job.

So yes, some people really cannot fork over 15 bucks for a monthly subscription, but I'm pretty confident that most people are just lazy or have terrible money management skills.

Pretty much this, are people really butthurt over such a small amount? 2 less meals in town during 1 month and barabooom, you got enough for your wow sub ^^

Completely true, but there is one thing I don't like at all about a subscription based model. I remember when I played retail WoW, I felt forced to play the game sometimes even though I sometimes didn't want to. Although 15 bucks is a miniscule amount of money to pay per month, it still feels like some kind of commitment and that I have to play the game to get the most bang out of my buck so to speak.

I'd rather pay more money for a game (possibly even in the form of expansion packs or patches) rather than being stuck to a subscription based model

[drabus]

I'd rather pay more money for a game (possibly even in the form of expansion packs or patches) rather than being stuck to a subscription based model

The problem with a fixed-price revenue model is the longevity of an on-going service. If there was zero subscription fees and no in-game store, how long would you expect for the servers and support to stay in place at Blizzard? Two years? Three years? Any more than that and it is just a revenue/profit drain for them and they will pull the plug. I can't imagine that there will be a continuous influx of new Vanilla players years down the line.

There needs to be some form of reoccurring revenue - even if it is just a small annual fee or micro-transactions - or else there will always be a threat of the server(s) being shut down for lack of profitability.

Unfortunately, that's just business.

[Undertanker]

Just gonna put this here.....

If you cant afford 15bucks per M... you shouldnt be infront of the computer, get a job you useless waste of air.

Outing yourself as a rude, self-righteous, myopic idiot I see. I would have recommended working on your personality problems, but this might be your decade. Go nuts.

His delivery may be direct, but he is right.

TLDR: No he isn't. Not even close. He is a moron. How is your Bullshit alarm not going off here?

[melak]

People just have to accept the fact that they wont and cant change payment model when (hopefully) setting up legacy realms. If you cant afford or dont think its worth it, then dont stick around here and moan about it

[MasterQuaster]

Why do you guys discussing this topic so hard? Oo Blizzard didn't even announce anything of worth yet. So keep your fingers calm guys!

Wait for offical announcments of Blizzard! I think they anyway just wait until the Nostalrius closure is forgotten.

[heradura]

Yes, what we private server players need to do is confirm the suspicion that we're broke freeloaders.

If you want a persistent MMO with good support and no pay-to-win, you'll need to pay for the overhead somehow, and a one-time purchase won't cut it. This isn't a static single-player game. You can't have it both ways. If you can't afford 50 cents a day then you have more problems to consider than how you spend your leisure time.

[Forcerius]

No, you paid for the ability to connect to Blizzards servers, it's right there in the ToS. .

k. Makes no difference.

Counter-strike isn't free and never was.

I bought Counter-Strike. I can now play it for free. It has no monthly sub requirement.
Why does this even need to be said? Did you honestly not know that?

Free to play games are irrelevant in the context of paying a monthly sub for Legacy Servers

No. "Legacy servers" refers to a GAME called vanilla WoW. Just like other GAMES. Your only argument, like I already mentioned, is that vanilla wow is special.

The server could run off donations alone but the reason why Blizzard won't do that is because they ONLY care about profit, not the community. They could easily let a professional group run a FREE vanilla server just like Nostalrius that's supported by donations. I'd be willing to donate or split the server cost among the community (250,000+ people?). There, problem solved. Server is paid for, vanilla WoW up and running, Blizzard loses nothing and gains reputation. Want tech support? Fine, crowdfund it. Don't want or care about support like me? No problem, don't donate then. But what if nobody donates for the server? Then we won't have a server. But Blizzard can't just be the good guys and let us have a server, despite losing nothing, because they want to profit off it. Even though it would generate more profit in the long run and help their reputation.

[ceen2]

You can buy RU keys and gametime for like 6.5 € per 30 days.
WoW is super cheap already.
Legion 27 €, 30 days playtime 6.5 € seriously that's np for anyone.

[Forcerius]

You can buy RU keys and gametime for like 6.5 € per 30 days.
WoW is super cheap already.
Legion 27 €, 30 days playtime 6.5 € seriously that's np for anyone.

I could also buy food with that and play free online games. Maybe Riot should make an mmo.

[reysode]

I bought Counter-Strike.

You bought a licence to play it that could be revoked any time for whatever reason. Also even if you arent paying for the dedicated servers someone else has to. basically your business model is "wow should be free because other people than me can pay the server fees"