Kurise wrote:Lifealert wrote:A permaban for something so minor is unwarranted, especially against high profile members of the community. Duplicating gold is one thing, but farming tubers is another. Just as the staff unbanned Chinese wintraders (for really no logical reason) we must urge the staff to unban the nope members.
Ahh. So the GMs should let them exploit bugs because they are members of guilds clearing dungeons that were obliterated over 10 years ago?
They are not important. At all.
If the entire guild of NOPE was banned, absolutely nothing would happen. People would continue playing Vanilla WoW.
Some of these guys think their status of a raider somehow makes them impervious to the rules.
It's understandable that many here have personal grudges against NOPE because it's human nature to either adore or hate those superior to them.
But the reason these players deserve to be unbanned as already been stated many times, it's an unfair punishment for something that has been happening for 1 year and that noone knew was an exploit, these players weren't warned, and this behaviour had been happening since the start of the server and it was indeed blizzlike, there was no reason for ANYONE , regardless of guild, to believe that this was more of an exploit than killing the first guard in diremaul and resetting dungeon for the key.
It's not about being impervious to the rules, it's about having CLEAR AND OBJECTIVE rules defined, not punishing infractions and then stating that such behaviour that is common for any decent raiding guild and even happens RANDOMLY and in UNORGANIZED fashion is actually an infraction and an exploit (It's actually game mechanics and blizzlike)
Stop putting your own personal feelings or opinions of guilds and players in this matter, it has nothing to do with who is banned and everything to do with nostalrius infraction and banning policies.
You keep implying that these players knew that this was an exploit and took a risk, the reality is that NO ONE knew this was an exploit, most players knew that this was how it worked in retail and after 1 year of ZERO reports on bug trackers, ZERO communication from the developers and admins and ZERO warnings, 3 permanent bans were handed out 4 days ago, for something that is common behaviour amongst raiders of good guilds.
If you still can't see what's going on and would rather stay in your plebus mentality that these player were intentionally exploiting something that was blizzlike and whose status of existance has an exploit had never been adressed or warned by the administration then there are no arguments that will convince you otherwise.