Blizzard just announced they aren't giving us Legacy.

[Novah]

I need some kind of announcement, even if it's just an announcement that another announcement is coming on a specific date. I NEED U NOST. PLS

[caoyang186]

I might have stumbled into someone who is working at Blizzard; she claims to work in Blizzard, and according to her, Blizzard is not going to release legacy server anytime soon...
So, it is time to help Blizzard honor their core value!!!

[metrolol]

They've announced plenty of other games at Blizzcon.... and in fact have pretty much done so since the whole thing began. Technically all of these games are competition for WoW because the player can choose to play those instead. The only difference here is that they'd still be announcing a version of wow and they'd still be making money from subscriptions.

I don't understand your point about "other games." I'm saying they need to focus on Legion's future. This is NOT the time to announce Legacy (if it ever is for them) because Legion is fresh out less than 3 months and is doing very well. If they announce Legacy servers it will detract from any other Legion information and the media and playerbase will view that as "Looks like Legion is going to suck too." In case you don't watch Blizzcon frequently, they have different panels and announcements for each game. If they DID discuss Legacy, it would step all over Legion, which is a very bad idea and totally unfair to what has so far been an amazing bounce back expansion.

The game has been a disaster without legacy servers numerous times in the past, so I don't think anyone honestly believes that if blizzard allocates a very small amount of it's resources to a legacy server, that it is somehow going to "sink the ship".

"Disaster" is an overly strong and clearly biased word choice. WoD was a massive disappointment, but at no point has anything been disastrous about World of Warcraft for anyone but confused casuals. The expansions still sell millions of copies and even if the population dips to 1m subs, that's more than enough for the game to carry on, as seen with the meager thousands here that made the servers unbelievably packed.
I DO think people feel that way about Legacy though, because I have spoken at length to people in my guild about it. All but a few of them would even be interested in Legacy even with the expansion ideas in mind, and coming off how poorly WoD was done, its very important the focus remain on Legion and Legion only.

In fact legacy servers stand to be one of the few things that can stop players from unsubbing during said content droughts. Speaking of which, we generally see after 2 or 3 months of a new expansion, people begin to unsub. So that drought will take a lot less than a year to arrive. The only difference is a few months later, the game will have life again for a few months, and then revert back to drought status.... until the final tier of Legion, where we will see another year long drought again.

I totally agree, Legacy would be the best thing the game could do for those times where the final patch is out for WAY too long.
People do begin to unsub after a few months, but that has nothing to do with a content drought. I mean we are coming up on 3 months in and we just received a massive new non-raid patch. And there is still another 10 boss raid to come in early 2017. The "Drought" refers to the end of the expansion, and it occurs when the development cycle is finished for the current expansion, but the development team is working on the next expansion so heavily. Inevitably, said expansion gets pushed back and we end up playing through the same raid for a year plus. This is AT LEAST one full year away, as we still don't have Nighthold out, and that will be at least 3-4 months. There will be a second tier after that, which should last 6-8 months, and THEN the final tier will come out. If that IS the last patch, the "drought" wouldn't set in until at least 3+ months into that tier, so likely some time in 2018.
There is no such thing as a content drought in the middle of an expansion though. That is just people being casuals and not actually playing the game. A vast majority of people do not finish the content the patch has to offer while its current.

As for players coming back to blizzard games, it only makes sense. All they do nowadays is advertise their other games lol. WoW has lost tens of millions of players over the years due to a variety of reason.... suddenly if a lot of those people had a chance to play their favorite version again, they'd be interested. From there it makes sense that some of them would be checking out the other games as well. At the very least, the free stuff like Hots.

I just don't think so man. If Nostalrius could only generate 300k~ signatures, how many people would actually return? I really think it would be less than a million. I'd love to see it happen for sure, but I'm really cautious to say that it will fix all the problems for Blizzard. Honestly, it seems like it would be a massive undertaking for them, and its not likely to go over well for people who currently have no interest. Vanilla and old versions of WoW are very confusing to players who have recently joined and I seriously think it could do more harm than good for the current playerbase. I have brought a lot of people to Classic and TBC emulation over the years that have never played it. Even on high rate servers they don't understand why it takes so long to level, and many of their favorite classes either don't exist or are a complete joke. One of my longest friends in WoW is a huge fan of Retribution paladin, but obviously was horribly disheartened to hear that in Classic they were basically unplayable. Try explaining that to some one who has never played the game during Classic. "Ya sorry buddy, Blizzard was really bad at balancing back then. But trust me, this version of the game is way more fun!"

I'll maintain that the best thing that can possibly happen is Blizzard endorsing Nostalrius. The one thing that I know Blizzard has that Nostalrius doesn't is stable servers and proper customer support.
If there was a way to get that from Blizzard but let the Nostalrius guys develop the game as they please, it would be a win win in my book.
Something officially support that I could stream and make videos on to play when there is down periods in Legion, but something that I know is ran by people who truly know what Classic is all about and want nothing more than to deliver that again.

[Undertanker]

I have brought a lot of people to Classic and TBC emulation over the years that have never played it. Even on high rate servers they don't understand why it takes so long to level, and many of their favorite classes either don't exist or are a complete joke. One of my longest friends in WoW is a huge fan of Retribution paladin, but obviously was horribly disheartened to hear that in Classic they were basically unplayable. Try explaining that to some one who has never played the game during Classic. "Ya sorry buddy, Blizzard was really bad at balancing back then. But trust me, this version of the game is way more fun!"

This is the mind set and reason the game is what it is now.

Why it takes so long to level?

No hand outs. Progress your character and grow with them. The world is huge, and is meant to be explored thoroughly while still relevant. Is isn't just for a map discovery achievement. The time investment and longevity established report and an emotional connection to your character. Dare I even mention EverQuest as the initial standard of leveling pace? Vanilla was already considered a quick leveling experience from OG MMOers perspective.

MMORPGs were never intended to be for "casuals". Period. The market has forced many of the MMO IPs into making things more and more casual to appease a broader fan base, while pushing the players that are true to the genre away.

Moving on...

You got a new spell, you had HOURS of time to find practical application of it. The smallest of gains became much more rewarding.


Every coin has two sides, yes? (three if you count the side).

Class balance was something that was added at fan request and continues to be "balanced". It destroyed a key point of Vanilla. Which is understandable that a retail player wouldn't understand this concept unless they invested time in Vanilla.

Each class and spec has a home. Ret Pally is for PVP. You don't wanna PVP, then you don't wanna be a Ret Pally. The retail mindset of "just pick what ever they hell you want, they'll all perform the same" killed the individualism of class / spec / race.

[RepublicanNatio]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Nostalrius/com ... rius_team/

nano just responded an hour ago, "You'll hear from us again after Blizzcon."

Sounds like they want to be safe and not jump the gun and make a move before blizzcon even with the brack post.

[Docholy]

This thread has grown rather large, good to see people are staying up to day.

[ThoronaX]

"Blizzard just announced they aren't giving us Legacy."

sigh.... just sigh.

Bliz is making a big mistake. I wish they could see that themselves. One day they will look back and question themselves why they dismissed this opportunity. They may eventually launch legacy servers, but they are missing out big time RIGHT NOW.

They fail to see it wouldn't cut into their current subscribers. They let the fans they lost on the way out in the cold. No current sub would quit WoW if legacy servers would be introduced. Some would play both, sure. Some won't be interested and will continue on playing Legion and any future expansion. That's all fine, but there is still a group of players, your fans damned!, that are no longer playing WoW and haven't been playing WoW for many years now. We WANT to play your game. We WOULD play your game. But ONLY the version WE enjoyed. And that's not the version of WoW you currently offer.

Millions of players with money in their pockets. And Blizzard says no.
I can't believe it. But yet it's true.

*sigh*

[Skrofler]

"Blizzard just announced they aren't giving us Legacy."

sigh.... just sigh.

Millions of players with money in their pockets. And Blizzard says no.
I can't believe it. But yet it's true.

*sigh*

But, it's not true.
OP simply fails at English reading comprehension, possibly intentionally so.

Blizzard stated that there will be no update on Legacy servers during BlizzCon. That is all.
You can speculate all you want but the simple fact is that Blizzard did NOT announce that they are not working on Legacy servers.

[pallidio3t]

that Blizzard did NOT announce that they are not working on Legacy servers.

I think its very clear that "we’re still discussing the possibility" means it is still in prepredevelopement stage. they are not working on it, they are still discussing the possibility.

[melak]

"Blizzard just announced they aren't giving us Legacy."

sigh.... just sigh.

Millions of players with money in their pockets. And Blizzard says no.
I can't believe it. But yet it's true.

*sigh*

But, it's not true.
OP simply fails at English reading comprehension, possibly intentionally so.

Blizzard stated that there will be no update on Legacy servers during BlizzCon. That is all.
You can speculate all you want but the simple fact is that Blizzard did NOT announce that they are not working on Legacy servers.

No, op can see through their bs lies, if you seriously believe they will announce them after blizzcon you are insanely naive my friend.