BLIZZARD RESPONDS - BLUE POST

[Mopar]

I like having a Hellfire that can kill me, and be used in any spec.
I like having complicated talent trees that I can fiddle with.
I like having to play lots and lots just to get to 60.
I like the fact that you have to walk a lot and that getting that mount at 40 tastes so sweet.
I like having classes that are actually different from one another.
I like having more than 2 spells.
I like doing challenging raids with 39 other people at 60.

Read the idea of a pristine server carefully - they said nothing about a cap at 60, or progression server, or whatever. It's just WoD or Legion but with a few compile options toggled that will make levelling less absurdly fast and add a little requirement for community to exist.. Once everyone gets to 100/110, it will just be the same.

A Pristine WoD/Legion server is still WoD/Legion. And I personally don't like that version of the game.

[kiraito75]

Pristine servers is just a Troll from Allen Brack! They will earn nothing in that.

[Keftenk]

You think you don't want pristine servers, but you do

[melak]

I like having a Hellfire that can kill me, and be used in any spec.
I like having complicated talent trees that I can fiddle with.
I like having to play lots and lots just to get to 60.
I like the fact that you have to walk a lot and that getting that mount at 40 tastes so sweet.
I like having classes that are actually different from one another.
I like having more than 2 spells.
I like doing challenging raids with 39 other people at 60.

Read the idea of a pristine server carefully - they said nothing about a cap at 60, or progression server, or whatever. It's just WoD or Legion but with a few compile options toggled that will make levelling less absurdly fast and add a little requirement for community to exist.. Once everyone gets to 100/110, it will just be the same.

A Pristine WoD/Legion server is still WoD/Legion. And I personally don't like that version of the game.

This, its a slap in the face that they would even suggest such a thing. But then you see who wrote the response and everyhing makes sense

[Sharax]

So what can we do to capture that nostalgia of when WoW first launched? Over the years we have talked about a “pristine realm”. In essence that would turn off all leveling acceleration including character transfers, heirloom gear, character boosts, Recruit-A-Friend bonuses, WoW Token, and access to cross realm zones, as well as group finder. We aren’t sure whether this version of a clean slate is something that would appeal to the community and it’s still an open topic of discussion.

I think gettng rid of group finder and CRZ would help build up a realm community and it is a step in the right direction if you're playing the current expansion. Turning off level acceleration doesn't really do much. You're not creating vanilla or TBC communities doing this.

Even if they created pristine realms with different level caps, applying the current game design and pushing it down to older expansion content would require a lot of retuning and it simply wouldn't capture the essence of the game as they were then.

So, the concept they propose is good for rebuilding server communities but it doesn't solve for those wanting to play legacy expansions.

[Kelissandra]

Okay, lets take the time to think before we post guys. some of the posts in this thread are kinda ridiculous and memey/trolly. Lets show Blizzard that we aren't infact just a bunch of idiots and actually have a serious discussion about this.

My thoughts regarding their proposal that whilst it's an interesting one I think it will eventually fail and Blizzard will then blame us even though they are simply trying to find the lazy way to appeal to us.
I prefer not only the community aspect, but many other aspects of the vanilla/tbc expansions and it would be nice to also know if these will be addressed in a "pristine" server? for example, will old class mechanics return? like hunters having to be a certain range to use melee attacks? but with legion coming and the hunter melee spec in the works, I highly doubt that. Or the old talent tables (or something similar?) currently hybrid specs are not doable. Additionally, will the scaling be fixed? atm the scaling is incredibly ridiculous in wod. Will questing reward more exp than instancing just like in vanilla? Therefore having more people out in the open world? and will flying mounts be disabled so that we may experience others in the open world and hopefully encouraging world PvP? These are just a few things that come to mind and there's probably way more as to why we love the older expansions in comparison to the new.

[Kelissandra]

I like having classes that are actually different from one another.

also,
so much this

[melak]

I like having classes that are actually different from one another.

also,
so much this

Amen to that! Class quests, difficult group quests etc etc etc

[Ickuss]

This entire thing has been made a joke Brack just has some kind of issue with Vanilla because his first and only project he was lead for TANKED (WoD), so honestly, fuck J Allen Brack, Fuck Blizzard and fuck the entire retail WoW community... just shit players who were bad in vanilla and feel good now.

[kiraito75]

This entire thing has been made a joke Brack just has some kind of issue with Vanilla because his first and only project he was lead for TANKED (WoD), so honestly, fuck J Allen Brack, Fuck Blizzard and fuck the entire retail WoW community... just shit players who were bad in vanilla and feel good now.

They mostly didnt even played it.