Spec-based elitism on a legacy server

[phyriel]

Yea as much as I thought, he was competing more like with hunters than with rogues... hunters! which are utility class more than they are dps.

[smilkovpetko]

Yea as much as I thought, he was competing more like with hunters than with rogues... hunters! which are utility class more than they are dps.

Before i answer you for your question i need you to answer this :

Did you ever played Vanilla?

[smilkovpetko]

That's the way vanilla WoW works, but I wouldn't really care too much about your spec unless it's a raid. I would tell people who intend to tank on bear that they need to reroll warrior if they want to tank in the raids. If they are doing that in dungeons, they are simply being retarded. Sure I will take a rogue or fury warrior over a kitty for the melee dps spot in a 5 man given the choice, but if there is no rouge or dps warrior that whispers me for the spot, I will invite the kitty.

That is a choice and have nothing with their Viability or Optimal status.

[smilkovpetko]

So now you decide to deny the Video Evidence from 2006 that goes against your Argument?
You just proved my point about it's in human nature to deny the Truth.

It literally says in the end of the video: "Don't forget to be a healer most of the time"

Not to mention the fact he is doing 340~dps or whatever it is since the fight takes so fucking long and there's a hunter competing for the 1st spot.

If you can find footage of a top guild at the time like Death and Taxes, Memento Mori etc with a paladin topping meters you'll find your evidence more compelling.

Guilds as shit as in the video you posted didn't even exist on Nostalrius.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEs9coe5XRg
You should've posted this video instead, it's from retail vanilla; shows a literal dps race and also reaffirms what everyone already knew about paladin dps.

Your video is not even Vanilla but Video from 2008. The one i post was from Vanilla 2006.

Also in your video shows that Paladin do far more DPS than Warriors and Warlocks there so you prove my claim.

[phyriel]

2008... there it is! because they would never take ret pala into prog raids back in 2006, he had to wait 2 years so they gear him up as alt ;p lmao, if thats the case then i'm all good with ret palas, come as alt after we clear content with proper setup after content is cleared I'm all good for stupid fucking gimmcks, ret palas are the best one as gimmicks go.

[smilkovpetko]

2008... there it is! because they would never take ret pala into prog raids back in 2006, he had to wait 2 years so they gear him up as alt ;p lmao, if thats the case then i'm all good with ret palas, come as alt after we clear content with proper setup

My Videos with Ret Paladins are from 2006 , his video is from 2008.

Did you ever played Vanilla? 2nd time asking you.

[smilkovpetko]

So he decide to ignore simple question, we have tremendous problem now, this folk is real crook.

Your evidence is not credible, your statements are false,

Denying Videos,Screenshots,Vanilla WoW website from 2006.
What do you need as Evidence more than that?

your paladin zealotry is funny, you said you've done the same on nostalrius so i was curious to see if you're able to produce same evidence on Nostalrius as a base/common ground as I was playing here also.

https://www.youtube.com/user/killerduki
I have Youtube channel from Nostalrius and i was playing Tank , not bothering with Raids due to "Custom Server".

Btw I'm not obliged to prove you are wrong and go as far as handpick bullshit dps meters to prove you wrong ,

So you have obligation to deny the Evidence but you refrain from obligation to prove your claim? We know how Terrorism is created thanks to Believers that throw out Evidence and they Believe in ISIS.

(you'd just say that ret pala in this screenshot was bad and you would be on top of that list lawl so how is that a proof anyway).

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t3 ... 4444_o.jpg

you are obliged to prove you're right because its you that come up with riddiculous idea that ret pala is a valid dps in elitist environment which is purely false.

I came up with all Evidence and you denying them, you are obligated to prove your claim for that.

Come up with more believable evidence, thats all i got to say.

You had Videos (from 2006) , you had Screenshots from me, you had original Blizzard Website (from 2006) . What else do you need as Evidence?.

Even tho I don't need evidence because I know how it is, you're a feenix achiever and thats about it but its fun to see you struggle and change the subject all the time:P

So first you want to see Evidence and now you don't need them ? How can i struggle and change the subject when you are the one that changing it now?

Erm the fact that it was the biggest most succesful server since retail.

This does not make him Blizzlike Server.

So if it was that succesful it must've resembled what people were looking for, and since server was advertised as blizzlike and people that were looking for blizzlike sticked with it it kinda proves it was closest to blizzlike since vanilla.

Blizzard 1.8 Talent Tree



Nostalrius 1.8 Talent Tree



Blizzard 1.8 Seal of Command:

100% of Weapon Damage

Nostalrius 1.8 Seal of Command:

70% of Weapon Damage

Blizzard Seal of the Crusader:

Damage of white swings reduced.

Nostalrius Seal of the Crusader:

Damage of white swings increased.

Blizzard Holy Resistance:

Didn't Exist anywhere.

Nostalrius Holy Resistance :

Everywhere.

Blizzard Seal of Righteousness :

AP scale,SP scale per 1.0 Weap speed,weapon dmg scale,Damage variate each swing.

Nostalrius Seal of Righteousness :

SP scale 10% , static damage per swing.

Blizzard Consecration :

Scale with SP and variate damage each tick.

Nostalrius Consecration :

Scale with SP+AP static damage all ticks.

Blizzard T2 Set = Retribution with Spell Damage and Strength.

Nostalrius T2 Set = Holy without Spell Damage/Strength.

Tom Chilton Quote regarding Nostalrius :
http://kotaku.com/blizzard-talks-world- ... Socialflow

Schreier: Don’t the Nostalrius people have that data?

Chilton: No, they don’t actually. So what they did is went back and reverse-engineered it. They spent countless hours researching on YouTube, looking at, ‘OK how many hit points do you think that monster has, I think I saw a video that showed it with, you know, 2,152 hit points, so that’s the number of hit points we’re gonna give it.’ And they’re just kinda guessing and approximating on a lot of stuff. Which is cool, and they did an amazing job of making it feel like a very authentic experience. But ultimately the way they implement their data is in no way similar to the way we do it. So it’s not like we can even take that data and put it in the game, because they actually aren’t even really compatible - they have a completely different approach to creating content.

Btw now you avoid answering question becuase Nostalrius data clearly makes your theory about ret dps false so you choose to make biggest / most succesful server since vanilla not credible ground for statements because it doesn't match yours time to end this fail party.

Now you have all the answers why Nostalrius is pure NON Blizzlike Server and why it is not credible at all.


You avoid to answer my question 2 times, 3rd time i ask you : Did you ever played Vanilla?

[phyriel]

Yes I did. Sorry dude i'm quite busy as of late, will come back to have some more fun some day. Meanwhile enjoy proper dps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU6WQk9eLJI 2006, kinda wrecks your ret palies "evidence". Btw prot palies in 5 mans are kewl, stay that way and don't perform dps stunts @ home, leave it to adults.

[smilkovpetko]

Yes I did. Sorry dude i'm quite busy as of late, will come back to have some more fun some day. Meanwhile enjoy proper dps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU6WQk9eLJI 2006, kinda wrecks your ret palies "evidence"

Killerduki:
You avoid to answer my question 2 times, 3rd time i ask you : Did you ever played Vanilla?

Phyriel:
Yes I did.

If you did then you wouldn't call Nostalrius Blizzlike at all because you would knew the difference.

Blizzard 1.8 Talent Tree



Nostalrius 1.8 Talent Tree



Blizzard 1.8 Seal of Command:

100% of Weapon Damage

Nostalrius 1.8 Seal of Command:

70% of Weapon Damage

Blizzard Seal of the Crusader:

Damage of white swings reduced.

Nostalrius Seal of the Crusader:

Damage of white swings increased.

Blizzard Holy Resistance:

Didn't Exist anywhere.

Nostalrius Holy Resistance :

Everywhere.

Blizzard Seal of Righteousness :

AP scale,SP scale per 1.0 Weap speed,weapon dmg scale,Damage variate each swing.

Nostalrius Seal of Righteousness :

SP scale 10% , static damage per swing.

Blizzard Consecration :

Scale with SP and variate damage each tick.

Nostalrius Consecration :

Scale with SP+AP static damage all ticks.

Blizzard T2 Set = Retribution with Spell Damage and Strength.

Nostalrius T2 Set = Holy without Spell Damage/Strength.

You certainly lie.

Meanwhile enjoy proper dps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU6WQk9eLJI 2006, kinda wrecks your ret palies "evidence".

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Loatheb_(original)

Fungal Bloom — Critical-hit chance increased by 50%. Spell critical-hit chance increased by 60%. Spells and abilities cause no threat. Get from environment, you can control who gets it. 90 secs duration, spawns every 12 secs, every time only 5 people can get it.

Is that for you even proper and viable?

Btw prot palies in 5 mans are kewl, stay that way and don't perform dps stunts @ home, leave it to adults.

What about this ?

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t3 ... 8017_o.jpg

[phyriel]

u're aware that nost had 1.12.1 patch and only content was progressive? derp

https://www.youtube.com/user/killerduki
I have Youtube channel from Nostalrius and i was playing Tank , not bothering with Raids due to "Custom Server".

So no serious Nostalrius guild wanted to carry you, now I got the picture why so tilted